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Man you sure dont want to ever fight my alliance. Steam giants. hahahaha bring em on.

If you use sharks and shoot your enemies out off the air line. Why would you use hoplites if you don't throw a single unit into the front row?

In short, I didn't say that I don't use hoplites. I described a simple tactic that you can use to grind them down. It's pointless to explain anything about the mechanics of the game and when to use which unit, for those who are hysterical on the forum and don't thinking, you only see your enemy how much money spent and they are "unbeateable". Learn a little, spend your time how to fight, maybe you will realize that the big Mastercard warriors can be easily beat it. You just need to think a little.

i'm not a mastercard warrior. Fighting for over a decade,i learned a few things.

They are the reason you are hysterical on the forum. I didn't say you are, or that I am. I use Ambro like everyone else, there is no other way to improve it.

Those who run around with millions of general points, there is no point in approaching things in only one way. I wrote a few simple things, you just have to use them and click a lot.

That's it... if you don't understand, I can't help you. Read, learn. Find someone who understands what I wrote and learn from them. Use sharks, mark the route, uprage the carrier's defenses.

If you throw 8,000-10,000 rocket in one night, you will be good. You can believe it hurts them.

Its only +6 hour

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They are not unbeatable either...
Writing is always easier than thinking..

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Speeds offence more priority then carrier defense. Not my first rodeo bud. I'm just pointing out new players dont stand a chance.

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More importantly, yes.

Even an account with a few million points can make a big impact. And it can fight big whales. Players who fight with their cards will not be good. They don't know the mechanics. Just pay... pay... pay, that's all.

They are not invincible, using the mechanics of the game, knowing the tricks is still more useful than who pays how much and how advanced they are.

You have to develop smartly, prioritize what is useful. Against such big fighters who have thousands of ships in their hands, you just have to dodge and shark as much as you can. Believe me, it will hurt their wallet...

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It doesn't usually hinder me, if it's not developed, you can take it down to a 1/99% ratio. On land, you shoot it out of the air, then grind it down with steam giants. At sea, you throw out the third line, doesont matter if it 6,000 rockets or even more. You can shark all them one night.. In the morning they are interesting afterwards, the enemy always runs and dont one to fight with you.

Man you sure dont want to ever fight my alliance. Steam giants. hahahaha bring em on.

If you use sharks and shoot your enemies out off the air line. Why would you use hoplites if you don't throw a single unit into the front row?

In short, I didn't say that I don't use hoplites. I described a simple tactic that you can use to grind them down. It's pointless to explain anything about the mechanics of the game and when to use which unit, for those who are hysterical on the forum and don't thinking, you only see your enemy how much money spent and they are "unbeateable". Learn a little, spend your time how to fight, maybe you will realize that the big Mastercard warriors can be easily beat it. You just need to think a little.

i'm not a mastercard warrior. Fighting for over a decade,i learned a few things.

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They are the reason you are hysterical on the forum. I didn't say you are, or that I am. I use Ambro like everyone else, there is no other way to improve it.

Those who run around with millions of general points, there is no point in approaching things in only one way. I wrote a few simple things, you just have to use them and click a lot.

That's it... if you don't understand, I can't help you. Read, learn. Find someone who understands what I wrote and learn from them. Use sharks, mark the route, uprage the carrier's defenses.

If you throw 8,000-10,000 rocket in one night, you will be good. You can believe it hurts them.

Its only +6 hour

15 sec 1 shark

They are not unbeatable either...
Writing is always easier than thinking..

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It doesn't usually hinder me, if it's not developed, you can take it down to a 1/99% ratio. On land, you shoot it out of the air, then grind it down with steam giants. At sea, you throw out the third line, doesont matter if it 6,000 rockets or even more. You can shark all them one night.. In the morning they are interesting afterwards, the enemy always runs and dont one to fight with you.

Man you sure dont want to ever fight my alliance. Steam giants. hahahaha bring em on.

If you use sharks and shoot your enemies out off the air line. Why would you use hoplites if you don't throw a single unit into the front row?

In short, I didn't say that I don't use hoplites. I described a simple tactic that you can use to grind them down. It's pointless to explain anything about the mechanics of the game and when to use which unit, for those who are hysterical on the forum and don't thinking, you only see your enemy how much money spent and they are "unbeateable". Learn a little, spend your time how to fight, maybe you will realize that the big Mastercard warriors can be easily beat it. You just need to think a little.

Lili's thought process is pure envy, she doesn't want to look for a solution to defeat her opponents.. she just sees like a crow that a lot of money has been spent on her and she is invincible. And this is not true, the game mechanics cant beat with mastercard.

Tell a friend to only improve the Carrier's defense.. until level 20.

260M gold, 260M resources.

Talk to this player to throw out the third row.. and then you attack him with your fleet. 260M gold, right? It's not that much. There is a solution to everything, you just have to think about it, not get hysterical on the forum because someone is spending much more money on the game, even though it was an opportunity given by the game. BUT! Not a winning button.

It doesn't usually hinder me, if it's not developed, you can take it down to a 1/99% ratio. On land, you shoot it out of the air, then grind it down with steam giants. At sea, you throw out the third line, doesont matter if it 6,000 rockets or even more. You can shark all them one night.. In the morning they are interesting afterwards, the enemy always runs and dont one to fight with you.

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Yes,they really did make this game unplayable for honest players.

Just learn to play instead of complaining about it. Up your storage, focus on the upgrades that matter, etcИ

Huh? You a troll or something? Let me teach you how to play: Make 1+10 STRONG accounts (and by make, I mean Inherit with Gift system, which doesn't exist anymore or buy from the Black Market). Let them Dig on clustered Archipelagos.


Step 2: Now buy 10-20 bil total donation accounts from Black Market to pump those islands to 6X/5X

Step 3: Now, ask your friend to enter your alt alliance and rob you daily 10 of them.

Step 4: You mirror each other and you rob his 10 farm accounts made in similar fashion.

Step 5: Donate some ambrosia for x2 warehouse limits and reach 300mil cap

Step 6: Make 25~27 lv speed paddle upgardes by converting any res to crystal with premium trader

Step 7: Go to forums and type "Just learn to play instead of complaining about it. Up your storage, focus on the upgrades that matter, etcИ "

P.S. Gold, as always is generated by thin air in this game *wink wink*

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And you can still be competitive with 20 paddle speed boat upgrades. There are diminishing returns.

The game also has a store and you can do all of that by purchasing from the in game store. I already went in depth how spending $1600 can get you 2 months of crystal.

While they do need to make it so upgrades contribute to the TS, once they do if you run into an account like that on a server that you don't like? You can likely pay for a transfer or graveyard to play on a different server. There's not enough of those accounts or players that ever server has someone like that on them.

The game is pay to win. It has a store. Someone likely has more money than you anyways.

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There are ways to get that loot for free without breaking any rules it just requires good teamwork with your teammates and being active in farming.

But yes, if you’re referring to an average player who doesn’t use Ambrosia at all and, most importantly, doesn’t use traders, only has one account, and doesn’t farm, then it’s impossible to keep up with the upgrades, despite if has many cities in crystal.

But guess what not everyone has top upgrades. It’s only a few players. And if you want to protect your loot from them, just keep around 30–50k troops. No one will attack you if you have that many; it’s basically a suicide mission.

It’s not all black and white, and Ikariam isn’t purely pay-to-win. You just have to be creative

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Let's say I'm not so sure about this..

I wrote earlier you can use tricks. There are a lot of systems in the game that make it difficult for a looter to play. Hide the raw materials, high hiding places, deliver. 1-1-1-1 system, actively react to the steps, delay them, take their time. Disrupt the merchant's ships with a colossus.. you could list more, as long as the majority of the players don't show the slightest sign of defense, they will be farms. This was also the case in the 3/3 system, but in the new system, even a large army will not scare anyone if there is no development behind it.

The game mechanics can't beat with mastercard.

What I wanted to get out of this is that the problem here is not with the v14 update. There is something to improve, of course, for example on land the balloon is quite unbalanced.

The source of the problem, the possibility of multi, I think Badidol knows this, everyone knows it, but for some reason it is good business for GF that multi is allowed in the game..

I've also fought people who jump around with 3-6 million general points, with town relocation. With endless multi accounts, ordered directly from Turkey, there are such warped.. it's not legal but they can do it. Just because someone throws in a lot of euros dont knows the tricks.

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Yes,they really did make this game unplayable for honest players.

They need to do something because the game had become boring and the same for years.

They could do a lot of different thing.

They simply have chosen the easiest and cheapest thing to develop and probably and that gives them much in return.

Free to play players do not spend before and continue not spending after, but now pay to win players are infine ups they can invest $$ in

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Exactly!

Mastercard never enough against the game mechanics. Anyone who knows the tricks and has fight well before v14 system should know this.

If you've developed it high enough, you can take down barbarians on land and at sea with great profit. It's all a matter of activity.

Multies is a sensitive topic, which is a very bad foundation in Ikariam.

You can get gold, you loot, selling the raw materials is much more profitable than producing.

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Közzéteszek pár cr-t, amik bemutatják, hogy a korlátlan fejlesztések hogyan teszik játszhatatlanná ezt a játékot.

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Az enyémek 15-ösek és változnak, ez becsületes játékot jelent, és az ambrót üvegcserére használom. Először is, ennek a srácnak 5300 tendere van, korlátlan aranya és generátora az illegális multiplayerek miatt.

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Ez az ellenfél hamisítatlan. A gőzei 16 és 17.

Ez a játék régen szórakoztató volt, évekig a top 5 támadó pontszámú játékosok között voltam, néha egész éjjel harcoltam, de igazságos volt, és ügyességre volt szükség. Most már nincs szükség ügyességre. Valaki magyarázza el nekem, hogy a korlátlan fejlesztések hogyan tehették ezt jobb játékká.

Badidol, magyarázd el, hogy ez miben jobb, mintha egy 9 éves lennék.

Nem tudod legyőzni ezeket a csaló srácokat, és ne mondd, hogy nem csalnak, mert mi öregek tudjuk, hogyan csinálják, te pedig igen, mert nem vagy hülye.

Heisenberg szkripteket és botokat, Badidolt és tudod, hogy pont úgy használják őket, mint az összes régi játékgépezőt.

Ez a 10. kör.

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A korlátlan fejlesztések az utolsó szög a koporsóban, és egy kétségbeesett kísérlet a GF számára, hogy pénzt keressen Ambrón.

Kész vagyok, a játék játszhatatlan.

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I'll post a few cr's that show how unlimited upgrades make this game unplayable.

Mine are 15 and change and that's playing honestly and using ambro to change for glass. For starters this guy has 5300 tenders, unlimited gold and gens because of illegal multi's.

This opponent is unforged.His steams are 16 and 17

This game used to be fun, I have been in top 5 offence scores for years fighting, sometimes all night but it was fair and skill was needed. There is no skill needed now. Someone please explain to me how unlimited upgrades made this a better game.

Badidol ,explain how this is better like I'm a 9 year old.

You can not beat these guys that cheat and dont say they dont because us old timers know how they do it and you do to because you are not dumb.

Heisenberg scripts and bots Badidol and you know they are being used just like all the old timers playing do.

This is round 10.

The unlimited upgrades are the final nail in the coffin and a desperate attempt for GF to make money off Ambro.

I am done,the game is unplayable.

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I've fought thousands of sea and land battles since the update came out. It was clear from the very beginning that you need to increase your storage capacity and invest in upgrades if you want to fight. Not in palaces, governors...

Upgrades are important, there are a lot of upgrades that are useless and pointless.

If you don't invest in upgrades, just keep building, don't be surprised if you don't have a chance to fight on the front. This is not the difference caused by the previously shared tender. This is the difference caused by poorly invested resources....

The enemy is not at high levels at all.. I usually fight with 100-120k general points, I'm much more advanced than him, not with mastercard..

Give the defending side a greater advantage?

The attacking side only has the power of surprise, it suffers a disadvantage in everything else.

Unfortunately, it's clear from your comments that you don't understand and that you're full of *snip*. There's nothing wrong with that, it's a free world. You've said enough *snip*today, I'll let it go..

As a final thought. I don't think adding armor to the base stats of balloons is a good idea, because then even players who don't know the mechanics will feel an advantage. Since armor helps a lot, it's always constant in avoiding the wave. The health can to exhaust.

There are two things could play with.

1. Increase the health of balloons (buff)

2. Damage and health reduction of gyroscopes (nerf)

Well, the first one would be more obvious and easier to adjust. I don't think there would be much adjustment needed, they're not completely useless, but there's no point in using them vs almost the same upgrade.

If the opponent is active and sends out the balloons, you won't be able to take them down and you can scrape the wall with wall breakers. The balloon would be just as unbalanced as it is now, only in the other direction and it would be much worse.

Your second thought is better, but basically the balloon is a more expensive unit. Its development should also be more expensive, I think it's good. You could even add armor to the basic stats, that's not a bad thought, but it could probably be easier to adjust with health. As you can see in water battles, the carrier's health is high, so it can withstand hits better.

I see that makes your statement a little clearer, which is unfortunately terrible in its current form, because it makes units and buildings useless.

I think your suggestion is not a good approach, because then the balloon would always fire 30 cannons, and it would be unbalanced anyway.

It would be enough to increase the base health a little, and the balloon would immediately be more usable for deployment in more situations, since it would also be usable in the old system.

So, according to your argument, it's pointless to keep balloons. It's pointless to rotate steam giants. It's pointless to increase the wall, because in the air it's going to be giro vs giro anyway. When the opponent has 6000 giro and you don't have enough action points to deploy sharks, what's the point of these units in the game?

Based on your modest approach, you fight with hoplites and gyros.

You're not taking advantage of the real advantage of balloons that you should have in a battle, and you have no idea about it.

Currently, air combat is not balanced on land, if you haven't developed much, you don't know the combat tricks, it's a shame to explain it to you..

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Using the new battle system, with infinite upgrades, seems like the balloons are now just worthless.

With just 5 upgrade differences between enemy gyrocopters (17 attack) and ballons (12 deffensive), the balloons just ALL die without inflicting any damage to the enemy 3rd line.

Is this REALLY intended? Because it crashed the entire battle system of this game....

Now, the balloons are just WORTHLESS!!!

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Also, this should be true if there's every a 5 level difference between attack and defense.

If we look at the cost tables

As you can see upgrading gyro attack 18 is 3x the cost of balloon armor 13, this seems to be working as intended.

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It appears that the balloons need to have the armor at least 2 levels behind gyro attack, in order to survive, and they barely survive.

So, L22 off gyro is 15.85M crystal while L20 def balloon is 17.1M crystal.

So, yeah, seems about "right" to pay way more to have equal forces....

To have quite real eaual forces, the balloon need to be actually 2 level above gyro attack, so we are comparing 15.8M or crystal just in one level invested with 44.4M.

So, that 3x you just mentioned is actually the opposite way!

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It's never about equality, but survival.

If you're asking what the purpose of the change is, it's likely to force combat to be gyro versus gyro, and only bring in balloons once the skies are clear, instead of just send it and forget it.

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I disagree, what kind of fighting style is this..?

So don't use balloons against cannons when they hit your walls?! Or do they just poke steam giants?

Currently balloon are too weak, and gyro attack is cheaper, not to mention the 1.15% advantage of forge.

So the % will always be more useful for attack upgrades than +20 armor.

I think a good approach would be to increase the base health of balloons a little.

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Reggelt! De nagy a csend?!?! Rájöttem valamire, de csak halkan mondom, ne kiabáljam el. Gammán 9170 körülire csökkent a létszám a 2 hónapon keresztül 10000 körüliről, lehet, hogy elindult valami? :-))

Múlthét Hétfőn volt egy frissítés, ami elvileg felgyorsítja az inaktívok törlését és az akkora bejegyzésből azt írták 5-7 nap múlva fog szemmel láthatóan látszódni is a folyamat. Tehát helyreállították és folyik továbbra is az inaktívok törlése... Csend? Persze, szerintem már mindenki úgyvan vele, majd lesz valahogy a reményt is szépen lassan kiölték a játékosokból...

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A gf-nek jelenleg 6 fejlesztője dolgozik az ikariam játékon...!

Kínosan vicces ezaz egész..

Mármint 6 ember foglalkozik -elméletileg- a játékkal több, mint a semmi

Persze, igazad is van de hát számomra két dolog is felmerült ennek a kapcsán. Mint laikus hozzá nem értő mert lövésem sincs, hogy az informatikába hogyan programoznak, de van tapasztalatom a programozás kapcsán.. Igaz én Arduino, PLC-t szoktam az pedig vagy C nyelv, vagy létra diagramm.

Node, azt akárhányan csinálják annyi megoldás annyival lassabb mert rákell jönnöd mit miért és hogyan csinált.. Átkell látnod az ő tervét is..

Na már most nekem erről két dolog jutott hirtelen eszembe de mondom, mint laikusként lövésem sincs az informatika programozáshoz, de ha tételezzük fel valóban 6 ember csinálja, akkor vagy az érvényesül mint amit fentebb említettem, hogy összevisszaság lesz és egymás munkáiba belekotorásznak..

A másik véglet, hogy 6 ember van többen tudják ellenőrizni megosztani a munkát gyorsabban precízebben csinálni..

Tehát elméletbe minek is erre 6 embe?!

Ha a második jött hirtelen kósza gondolatom valótlan lehet hiszen, a gyorsaság na az ami nincs meg még köszönő viszonyban sem...

Precízség... No arról kár is beszélni, az elmúlt hónapok alatt megmutatták mennyire is precíz munkát tudnak ki adni a kezükből..

Az összevonáson kívül meg inkább a semmi fejlesztés tükröződik, nem pedig a 6 ember munkája...

Tehát miért is fizetnek 6 fejlesztőnek elméletben a GF-nál? Számomra ez inkább gáz kijelentés mint, hogy megnyugtató lenne a válaszadótól..

Másik téma.. Ezt nem tudom, ki mennyire vette észre lehet csak nálam ütközött ki bár kétlem, hogy így lenne..

Nekem a cselekmények ismét késnek pár másodpercet csak ugyanúgy, mint amikor a szervereket egyesítették...

Annyira sokat nem, mint a legelső ilyen hiba amit a szerverösszevonás magával hurcolt, de észrevehető érzékelhető és zavaró!

Amint végbe ér egy szállítás/fosztás/kalóz bármely cselekmény lejár az idő "-" jelzés és 1-4 másodperces intervallum után kapom meg a hírt róla és ér véglegesen végbe a cselekvés.