Infinite Horizons 2

    I've also fought people who jump around with 3-6 million general points, with town relocation. With endless multi accounts, ordered directly from Turkey, there are such warped.. it's not legal but they can do it. Just because someone throws in a lot of euros dont knows the tricks.

    What I wanted to get out of this is that the problem here is not with the v14 update. There is something to improve, of course, for example on land the balloon is quite unbalanced.

    The source of the problem, the possibility of multi, I think Badidol knows this, everyone knows it, but for some reason it is good business for GF that multi is allowed in the game..

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    What I wanted to get out of this is that the problem here is not with the v14 update. There is something to improve, of course, for example on land the balloon is quite unbalanced.

    The source of the problem, the possibility of multi, I think Badidol knows this, everyone knows it, but for some reason it is good business for GF that multi is allowed in the game..

    Wow has multiboxes, mmos open infinite clients (before your system crash)

    Be glad we live in the era of AI, should I spoil you how it all ends?

    But yeah too late for that in 2026, I have no solution sadly.

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    Carrier/speed waves still work.


    This depends upon upgrade levels. I've gone against players with high upgrade levels where those waves have had no effect.


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    Carrier/speed waves still work.


    This depends upon upgrade levels. I've gone against players with high upgrade levels where those waves have had no effect.

    Oh they work. For carriers upgrade defence and for speeds offence. I think we waved over 700 rockets one night when the enemy was sleeping.


    If you send 6 carriers, 30 speeds and a ram and you see 37 ships missing after they hit then you need upgrade the speeds for sure. For land battles upgrade levels are different for every troop if more then one is fighting and i cant find the list i had made But i have an older one you can use for a guide.

    Just learn to play instead of complaining about it. Up your storage, focus on the upgrades that matter, etc.

    Ohhh, it was you (the crow)back in May, if I remember correctly, you were advising people to upgrade speedboats and mortals in defence because your allies said it was right. Man, I’ve spent so much crystal for nothing.

    Anyway, it’s my fault for listening. Then common sense kicked in and I stopped before wasting millions more.

    Sending bombs to players where the third line has defence, while your carriers aren’t properly upgraded don’t expect to see many casualties.

    Anyway guys, can someone explain this to me… why do I see so many players without submarine upgrades? Is there any reason for that?

    How are you supposed to counter an enemy with 36 flames while you’re sending rockets?

    And why invest in rockets defence? Lol.

    Why????


    Sorry but I cant think of any reason players not playing with subs like in the past



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    You said--->

    If you send 6 carriers, 30 speeds and a ram and you see 37 ships missing after they hit then you need upgrade the speeds for sure.



    In reality if you send 6 carrier 30 speeds and 1 ram 36 will be missing, the ram will be dead.

    Sometimes depends the level of the enemy balloons you may see 35 missing as you might have 1 balloon casualtie


    HOW YOU CAN CHECK if your BOMBS were effective from the def points of the enemy and your attacking points and sometimes if you have 1 balloon casualtie thats a good indication

    OBVIOUSLY dont send 30 speedboat with 1 ram..they will die ...maybe that the only reason foe someone to upgrade the speedboat in def..silly if you ask me

    Sorry I had to correct you buddy

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    Yes,they really did make this game unplayable for honest players.

    Just learn to play instead of complaining about it. Up your storage, focus on the upgrades that matter, etcИ

    Huh? You a troll or something? Let me teach you how to play: Make 1+10 STRONG accounts (and by make, I mean Inherit with Gift system, which doesn't exist anymore or buy from the Black Market). Let them Dig on clustered Archipelagos.


    Step 2: Now buy 10-20 bil total donation accounts from Black Market to pump those islands to 6X/5X

    Step 3: Now, ask your friend to enter your alt alliance and rob you daily 10 of them.

    Step 4: You mirror each other and you rob his 10 farm accounts made in similar fashion.

    Step 5: Donate some ambrosia for x2 warehouse limits and reach 300mil cap

    Step 6: Make 25~27 lv speed paddle upgardes by converting any res to crystal with premium trader

    Step 7: Go to forums and type "Just learn to play instead of complaining about it. Up your storage, focus on the upgrades that matter, etcИ "

    P.S. Gold, as always is generated by thin air in this game *wink wink*




    And you can still be competitive with 20 paddle speed boat upgrades. There are diminishing returns.


    The game also has a store and you can do all of that by purchasing from the in game store. I already went in depth how spending $1600 can get you 2 months of crystal.


    While they do need to make it so upgrades contribute to the TS, once they do if you run into an account like that on a server that you don't like? You can likely pay for a transfer or graveyard to play on a different server. There's not enough of those accounts or players that ever server has someone like that on them.


    The game is pay to win. It has a store. Someone likely has more money than you anyways.

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    There are ways to get that loot for free without breaking any rules it just requires good teamwork with your teammates and being active in farming.

    But yes, if you’re referring to an average player who doesn’t use Ambrosia at all and, most importantly, doesn’t use traders, only has one account, and doesn’t farm, then it’s impossible to keep up with the upgrades, despite if has many cities in crystal.

    But guess what not everyone has top upgrades. It’s only a few players. And if you want to protect your loot from them, just keep around 30–50k troops. No one will attack you if you have that many; it’s basically a suicide mission.

    It’s not all black and white, and Ikariam isn’t purely pay-to-win. You just have to be creative

    I never said it was purely pay to win. I was just pointing out that yeah, someone can do that convoluted thing that Lili mentioned or they can buy it direct from the store. At least if someone is doing Lili's situation, you have the option to pillage those accounts, too.

    Let's say I'm not so sure about this..

    I wrote earlier you can use tricks. There are a lot of systems in the game that make it difficult for a looter to play. Hide the raw materials, high hiding places, deliver. 1-1-1-1 system, actively react to the steps, delay them, take their time. Disrupt the merchant's ships with a colossus.. you could list more, as long as the majority of the players don't show the slightest sign of defense, they will be farms. This was also the case in the 3/3 system, but in the new system, even a large army will not scare anyone if there is no development behind it.

    The game mechanics can't beat with mastercard.

    Play on smaller battlefields. I’ve realised that fighting on smaller battlefields, actually reduces/removes the advantage of upgrades


    I have strong army upgrades, so trust me I wouldn’t farm someone with 80k generals with troops. The mindset should always be to gain more, not to lose.


    Unless you’re just chasing attacking points, most players rely heavily on their navy anyway.


    Who is realistically going to attack you when you have 15k hoplites, 13k swordsmen, 7k gyrocopters, etc.? That’s just crazy.

    Lili's suggestions are also great

    It doesn't usually hinder me, if it's not developed, you can take it down to a 1/99% ratio. On land, you shoot it out of the air, then grind it down with steam giants. At sea, you throw out the third line, doesont matter if it 6,000 rockets or even more. You can shark all them one night.. In the morning they are interesting afterwards, the enemy always runs and dont one to fight with you. :)

    Lili's thought process is pure envy, she doesn't want to look for a solution to defeat her opponents.. she just sees like a crow that a lot of money has been spent on her and she is invincible. And this is not true, the game mechanics cant beat with mastercard.

    Tell a friend to only improve the Carrier's defense.. until level 20.

    260M gold, 260M resources.

    Talk to this player to throw out the third row.. and then you attack him with your fleet. 260M gold, right? It's not that much. There is a solution to everything, you just have to think about it, not get hysterical on the forum because someone is spending much more money on the game, even though it was an opportunity given by the game. BUT! Not a winning button.

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    Lili's thought process is pure envy, she doesn't want to look for a solution to defeat her opponents.. she just sees like a crow that a lot of money has been spent on her and she is invincible. And this is not true, the game mechanics cant beat with mastercard.

    Tell a friend to only improve the Carrier's defense.. until level 20.

    260M gold, 260M resources.

    Talk to this player to throw out the third row.. and then you attack him with your fleet. 260M gold, right? It's not that much. There is a solution to everything, you just have to think about it, not get hysterical on the forum because someone is spending much more money on the game, even though it was an opportunity given by the game. BUT! Not a winning button.

    The problem I have with Lili, etc.'s complaints are: if it's so easy to do that then why aren't you doing it? You'd be the kings of the server if you were willing to do that.


    It's similar to how I recruited everyone I knew with a unique IP address to play Ikariam with me, especially if they were more interested in helping me than actually being competitive lol


    I even had people playing that weren't really interested in the game, but were much more motivated to help me in the game. For example, they wouldn't play much, but if I asked for a favor, they would work intently to achieve that favor.

    if only 37 are missing means you killed nothing. I thought that was quite evident in my post.

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    It doesn't usually hinder me, if it's not developed, you can take it down to a 1/99% ratio. On land, you shoot it out of the air, then grind it down with steam giants. At sea, you throw out the third line, doesont matter if it 6,000 rockets or even more. You can shark all them one night.. In the morning they are interesting afterwards, the enemy always runs and dont one to fight with you. :)

    Man you sure dont want to ever fight my alliance. Steam giants. hahahaha bring em on.

    It would also indicate that there wasnt any fleet to kill in the town, as otherwise the ram would've been destroyed and there would be 36 missing.


    Lg

    Boros

    The enemy on our islands have about 10 times more troops then that in 10 towns. You can safely sleep knowing they cant put a dent in your troops. But thats why 4 of us are in the top 10 offence score. Try 50.000 ships and guys with half a million gens and a billion gold.