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I mean what were they trying to achieve???? It boggles the mind.
They probably want to maximize their profits before this game goes bust.
No. They have another game, Ogame. In that game all upgrades are unlimited so you can always build a higher level mine, research a higher level research, etc.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Ikariam also had unlimited building levels, higher level upgrades, etc. as this gives players more dimensions to grow their account in. They've been slowly implementing it over the years with the infinite upgrades update.
Again, this is overwhelmingly a good thing for the player base because it gives you more things to build and more things to upgrade. It has made crystal more valuable, etc.
I keep hoping they'll do the same for Miracles soon.
Ikariam wasn't projected to be like this. With single player servers, it would take almost forever to get where we are now. Thanks to alts, a lot of players got everything faster, and because there are no mandatory buildings, no one is required to build anything but the essential buildings to keep satisfaction high. Building is fun as long as you know your ROI will be positive, which is not the case.
I can see now what Badidol said regarding maintenance nightmare. There are so many variables to take into account that they forgot the most important one: free-will. When it comes to single player server, I don't think it would be a maintenance nightmare to have ONE single player server per country. In case that's too much, create one server in most crowded communities such as UK and US.
They wouldn't need to create anything new, they would remove codes, which is quite the opposite of maintenance nightmare. Then, in case this doesn't work, they can merge servers like they always do. I've already said something that, even though the 72 hour rule is live, still makes sense: half of the community has what they want, but the other half doesn't. Instead of having a black and white mentality, why don't they create a gray area where everybody wins?
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I mean what were they trying to achieve???? It boggles the mind.
They probably want to maximize their profits before this game goes bust.
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VPN's are whats killing this game.
You have to realize one thing: nowadays using VPN as such is not a violation, because it can be used even without user's notice (e.g.: Opera or Google). The violation however is when it's used to circumvent the IP share restrictions or to hide your multi accounts, but that's another story and GO's job.
Just so you know, Draxo said it was allowed in the past, that's why I said that. I haven't seen anything else on forum yet, because I rarely use discord.
Two things can be true at once.
1. The game prevents you from using VPNs, etc. by blocking them.
2. If you accidentally use a VPN, you simply can't use your account until you turn the VPN off.
What Draxo is saying is if you accidentally use Opera's VPN, we won't ban you for that, but again, the game actively tries to prevent VPN use.
Again, NOTHING you said makes sense.
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How often do server merges happen? Is it a regular thing?
Now it is hahahaha The last one was two years ago, I believe
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VPN's are whats killing this game.
You have to realize one thing: nowadays using VPN as such is not a violation, because it can be used even without user's notice (e.g.: Opera or Google). The violation however is when it's used to circumvent the IP share restrictions or to hide your multi accounts, but that's another story and GO's job.
Just so you know, Draxo said it was allowed in the past, that's why I said that. I haven't seen anything else on forum yet, because I rarely use discord.
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I don't agree with you. That statement is about Ikariam pre-infinite upgrades.
How is there nothing to build now? Every building can be continuously upgraded. Every unit can be continuously upgraded. The only thing lacking is research, but hopefully they'll address that.
You don't like being attacked? You can keep upgrading your wall. I've seen someone with a level 55+ wall.
The crow 's entire problem is he picked an active server and doesn't like the activity. That's fair. Now there's a merger. They can choose to choose a different server now and leave that behind.
Yes, nothing is mandatory, but if you want high upgrades? You have to upgrade your WH, etc.
Plus, my quote, which you took out of context, is about old Ikariam. In old Ikariam, once you hit the 4xWH 1xDump + Steamlifter limit, you couldn't build anymore. When all of your buildings are maxed, you can just attack people indiscriminately because you don't need to care about profit.
Now that buildings are unlimited, you do have to weigh attacking versus investing in infrastructure.
Finally, VPNs are already against the rules. If other players are engaging in that behavior, they are not likely to be using VPNs, and unfortunately, they're acting just like friends. I guarantee you when I had my entire guild, grandparents, etc., helping me in Ikariam that at least someone thought we were illegal multis, but just recruited everyone who had a unique IP address.
As far as gold banks, there's nothing against the rules about that, nor should there be.
NOTHING you said makes sense.
How? Ikariam, before infinite upgrades, had limitations based on 4 level 40 warehouses and 1 level 40 dump. If you used the steamlifter (2x storage) that's the maximum amount you could build (not everything was limited by storage, some buildings did have an actual level cap). Once all 12 towns were upgraded to that level, you had nothing else you could do besides attack people. Even if you wanted to build something, you couldn't.
Now? You don't even need steamlifter. You can keep building any other building as long as you have the storage for it. This means that players have to make a choice between attacking and building. It also means you should only attack/pillage if it's going to be profitable for you. Obviously, not everyone follows this rule, but there's a lot more motivation to do that now.
Also, we're about to have a merge so you can choose to merge to a different server type.
VPNs have been and will always be against the rules. There's nothing confusing about that.
Shows how much you know about the rules. Even badidol will tell you there are legal.
Just stop man.
If you're using a VPN or proxy, make sure it's turned off, as IP masking (anonymisation) is not allowed.
And still, people use it and do not get banned. Can you see it is useless to "report, report, report"? Plus, according to Badidol, Discord does not have any partnership with gameforge to let them know who is breaking the rules. Also, even though there are logs for every player action, they refuse to use them to ban people. After all this time, you still love the status quo.... or, you just love chatting just for the sake of it.
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The problem is when there's nothing to build, all you can do is make an army, attack people, and sell your loot and production for gold.
So you do agree with me. And because there are no mandatory buildings, alts with VPN can create gen and gold banks like crazy and ruin the game. This affirmation alone is enough to show what The Crow has been trying to tell you.
I don't agree with you. That statement is about Ikariam pre-infinite upgrades.
How is there nothing to build now? Every building can be continuously upgraded. Every unit can be continuously upgraded. The only thing lacking is research, but hopefully they'll address that.
You don't like being attacked? You can keep upgrading your wall. I've seen someone with a level 55+ wall.
The crow 's entire problem is he picked an active server and doesn't like the activity. That's fair. Now there's a merger. They can choose to choose a different server now and leave that behind.
Yes, nothing is mandatory, but if you want high upgrades? You have to upgrade your WH, etc.
Plus, my quote, which you took out of context, is about old Ikariam. In old Ikariam, once you hit the 4xWH 1xDump + Steamlifter limit, you couldn't build anymore. When all of your buildings are maxed, you can just attack people indiscriminately because you don't need to care about profit.
Now that buildings are unlimited, you do have to weigh attacking versus investing in infrastructure.
Finally, VPNs are already against the rules. If other players are engaging in that behavior, they are not likely to be using VPNs, and unfortunately, they're acting just like friends. I guarantee you when I had my entire guild, grandparents, etc., helping me in Ikariam that at least someone thought we were illegal multis, but just recruited everyone who had a unique IP address.
As far as gold banks, there's nothing against the rules about that, nor should there be.
NOTHING you said makes sense.
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The problem is when there's nothing to build, all you can do is make an army, attack people, and sell your loot and production for gold.
So you do agree with me. And because there are no mandatory buildings, alts with VPN can create gen and gold banks like crazy and ruin the game. This affirmation alone is enough to show what The Crow has been trying to tell you.
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At the end of the day, Ikariam is a game, if you don't enjoy it, quit playing and move on, like seriously move on. Don't post on the forums, etc.
While I appreciate you thinking you have control over how I use the forum, you don't. If you make a post, I am free to reply to you, disagree with you, etc., and will continue to do so.
Me too!
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Just because someone has more upgrades than you doesn't mean that they will win at all costs against you. The higher upgrades get more and more expensive, making the counter to the upgrade comparatively cheap.
This game is not about growth, you know that. They change rules out of the blue and those who only have taverns, museums and other essential buildings get the advantage. They are adapting the game to those who play like this, while the clowns like me and my old mates get beaten up after investing years in this game.
Do I want growth? Of course I do. I want to build my town wall as much as possible to avoid getting attacked. I want to upgrade my barracks to train SG's in seconds. I want to build my palace to the highest level to grow my empire, instead of doing this just for points. In other words, I want to play IKARIAM! Why don't they make these buildings mandatory to force the cheaters to grow?
For example, if you want to use the black market, you need trading skills. This will cost you 500k science points and/or upgrade your trading post to level 30. If they demand science points for players to do anything in this game, the academy will always be in use. After a certain level, science points may not be enough. You may also need to invest gold to keep the ball rolling. That's how you keep players active.
In case that's too much, for every transaction, you need science points. Done. Instead of charging ambrosia tax, you can invest science points. There you go.
I spent years growing my "empire" to have infinite forge, and when I finally do, they change its settings. Can you see how frustrating is that? It doesn't matter how hard I try, my ROI will always be negative. That's why I'm done with this.
Someone posted the video of the movie In Time. I like this movie, it makes me realize I'm wasting my time on this game.
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My counterpoint is, if you truly, in your heart of hearts, believe everyone is cheating but you, why play? It doesn't make any logical sense. I play Ikariam because regardless if people are cheating or not, I generally enjoy the game
That's not the problem, User. We all know there are cheaters. The problem is when GOs adapt the game for them. Why do you think they created endless workshop in the first place? Look how many pages I had to write on my thread GET RID OF THIS ALT STUFF to make them do something about it.
I agree with you, Hades can be used by anyone, that's not cheating, but when it comes to IP sharing requests, this is something to worry about.
GOs did not adapt the game for them, the game designer changed how upgrades work. I don't see the problem with infinite upgrades as the amount they pay to get an advantage is so disproportionate that they're spending millions of crystal for a small upgrade. The only issue is that it doesn't count towards total score and it should.
Someone who spends 20m crystal can also train a ton of troops instead so there is a balance to it, plus general banks are gone.
I understand your complaint, that it gives the largest accounts even more power, but, well, we're playing a pay to win game here.
To win at all costs, which ruins the entire experience since this is an mmorpg
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So is moving to a turkish server just to buy cheap ambro and then moving back
They fixed this pretty quick if I'm not mistaken. I wish they could fix the rest
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My counterpoint is, if you truly, in your heart of hearts, believe everyone is cheating but you, why play? It doesn't make any logical sense. I play Ikariam because regardless if people are cheating or not, I generally enjoy the game
That's not the problem, User. We all know there are cheaters. The problem is when GOs adapt the game for them. Why do you think they created endless workshop in the first place? Look how many pages I had to write on my thread GET RID OF THIS ALT STUFF to make them do something about it.
I agree with you, Hades can be used by anyone, that's not cheating, but when it comes to IP sharing requests, this is something to worry about.
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Riva TnT2 ultra They can go anywhere within their same community! No, migrating nor immigrating to a different comminity allowed šš
They'll find a way.
My dead server is full of immigrants.Cheers to diversity! lol
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I'd like to see the maximum number of multis cut to 2 or 3.
They allow 11 accounts, which means the situation is really bad. Seigmann's comment makes sense. The game may not be de.ad, but it is definitely breathing through machines.
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Honest question: Reporting is all we can do. However, we tried that and nothing happened. I myself reported multiple times, and they are still there. In case there is no printscreen, which indicators do you consider to know whether someone is cheating or not? The report button has always been there for us, even before this alt stuff, and some players were obviously cheating and nothing happened.
I'm not talking about discord only, I'm talking about all rules.
I mean, doesn't an MMORPG capture event logs for every player action? There's no better actionable proof than this.
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Display MoreThe highscore position of a player does not factor in the decision whether or not to ban for a proven rule violation.
Whether or not a violation can actually be proven or if only blind men can see it does, however.
Since we're neither blind men, nor have the luxury of not having to take legal considerations, laws and customer protection and privacy into account, we can't just go willy nilly ban people on popular demand but need actual proof that blind and non-blind men alike can agree upon.
That has always been so and always will be.
badidol has not been on "the Perseus discord".
badidol is on the official Discord we provide and that's it.
What you people don't seem to understand: Discord is not our platform.
Even IF Discord would be so kind as to actually care about "Hey, what they do violate Ikariam's rules and Gameforge's T&C!", which more often than not they don't because they also simply don't have to and nobody in their right mind doing business actually would make other people's problems their own, all we can do is report. And let's assume, Discord would care and would cooperate. It's a matter of minutes to set up a new Discord server.
Hope, your 12 year old self is a bit smarter now.
What blind men can see is irrelevant and doesn't help. Never did. Only actionable proof does. Always did.
Honest question: Reporting is all we can do. However, we tried that and nothing happened. I myself reported multiple times, and they are still there. In case there is no printscreen, which indicators do you consider to know whether someone is cheating or not? The report button has always been there for us, even before this alt stuff, and some players were obviously cheating and nothing happened.
I'm not talking about discord only, I'm talking about all rules.
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Well, we tried, that's what matters. I actually didn't understand when they came up with the '"good old days server". The only thing they are doing is removing the bonuses, i.e., the only incentives that keep us playing. They removed the forge, changed the workshop, many alts will transfer their accounts normally.... it's time to move on.
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Yes, you should. It's up to all of us to report people if we think they're breaking the rules. All of us, including the GOs, need to work together.
If you don't want to document and report cheating behavior, you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Quit being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
Again, as far as I know, there's nothing illegal with someone attacking someone while they have Hades up and intentionally losing. Obviously, at extremes like this, it should be looked into as pushing.
it's documented right here. You only have to look at the top offence and defence scores to see what they are doing. I bet that guy is at 10 million offence score in 12 hours. They found a way to get rid of their gen banks and scoop hundreds of million in marble if not billions. Badidol knows who they are, they are all big alliances and on the ikariam discord but ya...I wont mention names. All the high point players have dropped tags just to do this.
What exactly is the violation you're concerned about?
Troop destruction using the Hades' miracle is currently a supported feature of the game and isn't against the current rule set. If anything, they'll stealth change Hades to be only the defender's units that turn into marble.
The player you've alleged this against did the opposite, the lower point player (he has around 1m points) dropped the alliance tag to attack someone. Again, nothing about this seems to be a violation of the rules so far.Using a general bank was never against the rules; butchering a general bank into marble isn't currently against the rules either.
Attacking someone with the intention of losing while they're using the Hades miracle might be against the rules if the attacker has lower points than the attacked, but that gets a lot more ambiguous as you'd need to prove collusion for pushing.
using illegal multi's is against the rules and badidol knows it but chooses to igmore it. Some of us have been playing this game and fighting over ten years.We know the exploits but some of us dont cheat.
badidol nor the GOs choose to ignore it. The issue is that it's difficult to get definitive proof.
Again, suspecting someone has an illegal multi and proving someone is an illegal multi are two different things and badidol, the GOs, etc. require proof otherwise it'll simply be overturned on appeal to SGOs.
Nothing you've reported in this threat suggests illegal multis, at best, it suggests a possible pushing violation.
Right, so IP sharing request exists for nothing. Supervision and regulation are important factors in all areas. Given the size of the game, they should supervise and regulate it. However, I have nothing against those who use Hades to get marble, as long as you follow the rules, of course.
People complain about everything, and they always will.
