Posts by Milkshake

Quote from ben47

Bon j'ai u 1 mois de repos car il a été en mode vacance mais malheuresement il reprend de plus belle ! J'ai cru qu'il passé été a autre chose mais apparemment il ma pas oublier depuis c'est 1 mois donc je serais ravie de balance ça position son nom et son classement sur le serveur alpha et que tous ce qu'il veule m ' aidé à faire la même chose qu'il me fait subire depuis 1an je serais ravie de ce soutien !!

Malgré que certaines personnes ont essayé de m'aider !

J'en ai déja vu des comportement comme ça sur certains jeu mais celui la il est dans top 3 !!!

Toute info sur ce joueur toxique m'a été demandée par MP !

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C'est le jeu. Il a le droit de faire ca.
C'est anti-jeu et toxique, oui, absolument. Mais ca n'a pas d'importance car il rapporte sûrement beaucoup plus d'argent à la gameforge que toi, moi, et nos 2 alliances réunies.

Les jeux comme ikariam fonctionnent sur le dos d'une poignée de mega grosse baleines.
Ton existence et mon existence sur le jeu ne servent qu'à faire en sorte que ces grosse baleines se sentent mieux dans leur tristes vie, à se sentir supérieur aux autres joueurs afin de justifier leur investissement monétaire. Ce n'est pas compliqué, ce n'est pas un secret, ce n'est rien de nouveau.

Même si il ne met pas d'argent dans le jeu, peu importe le principe reste le même. Gâcher le jeu des plus petits joueurs doit absolument rester possible pour satisfaire l'ego des plus gros joueurs.

Comment te sortir de cette situation ?
-Arrêter de jouer
-Espéré qu'il arrête un jour (aucune garantie et peut prendre un an voir 2 ans)

-Mettre de l'argent dans le jeu pour avoir de l'ambro et bouger tes villes à l'autre bout de la carte pour qu'il te fiche la paix.

-Attendre que ton compte tombe inactif, puis disparaisse afin de tomber dans le serveur cimetière, ce qui te permettra de choisir un nouveau serveur d’accueil à ta reconnexion, te permettant de jouer sur un serveur où il n'est pas là.

-Si aucune de ces options ne te plaie, alors retour à l'option 1, arrêter de jouer.

It's because gameforge has interests in protecting cheaters because they are the one investing the most money and time in the game.
If they say clearly "This player is banned for multi account" then they will get shamed and called out by the community and they won't be able to play innocents.
Since that kind of player only has their own interests i nmind they often lie to thier own teamates too, so their teamate could discover that and ostracise them.

forcing them to get a new ikariam name, potentially ruining their reputation over multiple servers, and also forcing them to make a new discord account and act like new players, losing all their previous glory.

If they can't cheat they can't win so they don't play, if they don't play they can't spend money so it's better for gameforge to keep them in.

You have to realise that a game like ikariam is not making money out of thin air. The game is made so that players who pay win. Period.
The best thing people can do is stop playing the game, but it's hard to do that when you already spent so much time in the game.
Since you can't win, ever, you stay quiet and you farm and you don't spend money.
The big boys keep winning because they spend money, gameforge is dependant on them to keep the game alive.

This is, first, why they often get away with cheating, and why bans cannot be public.

Laissez tomber en fait le jeu espace les combats qui auraient lieu à moins de 15 secondes d'intervalle donc pas besoin de script pour avoir ce résultat.

Nous en sommes au point où nous ne combattons plus des humains mais des scripts. 15 secondes d’intervalle exactement sur 21 impacts.
Le joueur est 404_error de l'alliance GTA sur orpheus FR. Player ID 116974.

Je signale ceci car il faut que la gameforge et la communauté soit au courant.
C'est surement le cas depuis bien longtemps mais au minimum à partir de maintenant tant que la gameforge n'update pas son bot de détection des script vous ne pourrez pas savoir si la personne en face de vous est vraiment humain ou si c'est juste un tricheur qui a installé un script.

Le jeu devient donc 100% brisé par cet exploit. Le classement PA et PD n'a plus aucune valuer puisque les gens peuvent simplement laisser rouler un script qui combat pour eux. Si il existe un script pour le sulfatage alors soyez certain qu'il y a aussi des script de vagues.

They will never bring it back, they will camp on their position and rationnalise their extremely bad change for eternity because they hate ikariam players and like to laught at us.

The buttons were good and everybody in the WORLD knows it, they know it. But they like to take these very bad decisions because :
1: They can
2: LOL
3: That feeling of power over so many people
4: LOL again

Ceux qui disent que c'est un ajout inutile ne comprennent clairement rien à l'optimisation des transport de ressources sur le long terme.

Le cargos permettent de transporter des centaines de milliers de ressources la tête tranquille.
Que vous arriviez à faire un seul transport de marchandise par jour avec les cargos représente DÉJÀ une augmentation du nombre de ressources totales transportées en une seule journée.

Certain diront "Il suffit de faire un transport de plus avec les bateaux normaux."
Oui ok mais quelque qui fait le même nombre de transports et qui a des cargos en plus et qui les utilisent ne serait-ce que une fois par jour bougera des centaines de millier de ressources en plus par jours.

Les bateaux qui transportent 500 ressources me coûtent actuellement 10m d'or. Un cargo transporte 50k et coute 8m d'or.
Pour que 1 bateaux normal fasse une différence de 50k de ressources par jours comme le cargo, il fraudait que je fasse 100 voyages avec dans le même lapse de temps, ce qui est impossible.

Les cargos sont avantageux peu importe comment on le voit.

Quote from Wolf of Wall Street

McChurro It is very late and I am too tired to write to you in detail now that I am one of those bad people who did such things. In short, something very interesting happened about 2 months ago. Some guy came out of nowhere, like 250k points, no alliance. A new round of pirates just started, the 2nd day it seems to me. He had 4 cities, standard and 4 cities that he walked around the server. He was on my islands for two days, he took the first night of pirates from me, and everyone from my island, he did the same with the other 3 cities. He had an ingenious tactic, he knew when to destroy the pirate fortress and when to build it again. He attacked every half hour, it was impossible to fight back. He made a total mess of all the strong players on the server, but people were stomping on him so much, blocking his ports, hitting new lvl 1 colonies and stealing gold. He no longer had the ability to transfer resources and build a fortress, everything was destroyed, he ran out of gold, it is literally impossible to take away the title from strong players, because there is always a way to finish you off.

don't you suspect that guy to simply be the multi account of someone willing to ruin the piracy aspect for people outside of his team ?
I've seen this happen just these last months.
Ho no ! how unfortunate this random player who nobody ever heard of started to raid one or two other piracy teams and all alliances making points for them, sadly there is no way to PROVE that this is an account from another in particular even if everybody knows perfectly what is happening. The plan was a success and that session was ruined for many.
When the guy is tired of it he just let himself go inactive, go to the graveyard, come back with more town teleport, changes his name and goes back in the business.

People saying multi account became part of the tactics are the ones who are proud to abuse it. The truth is multi ruined most of the real tactical implications of the game due to their overwhelming one sided advantage.

Quote from Wolf of Wall Street

Milkshake Can I have a multi account? Can I use it to make pirates for my alliance and destroy the faith of someone from the opposing alliance on the island? Can I store gold in a multi account? Can you do all that too? Multi accounts exist to help you to a certain extent and to hinder others to a certain extent. Just as you can have it, so can others. And you'll do things with it that you probably would never do with a main account, so multi accounts are a double-edged sword.

Ok maybe we use that expression differently.
The fact that we both CAN use it doesn't mean it's fair to use it against someone who doesn't have one.

Multi account do not exist to help you in any ways. They exist because gameforge doesn't have the balls to ban them because if they do there will be thousands of big alliances who rellies on them to actually win the game who will be affected negatively and these are the breadwinner for gameforge because they are the ones to put ambrosia in the game constantly.
Normaly, a game like ikariam which is in good health will ban all multi account, no questions asked.
you also ignore the crucial fact that not all multi accounts are equals, some are just better than others because gameforge allowed people to tranfers them into the same server as other existing accounts, resulting in people having 2-3-4-5-6 accounts on the same server with millions of point each and different usages.

They also let poeple go back into the graveyard and come back again and giving them town teleportation again, resulting in many players having 30-40 town teleportation on their multi account, perfect for the end of the month to raid people out of nowhere.

A double edged sword would be something with advantages and disadvantages. Here we have only advantages and maybe a very small amount of disadvantages. Multi accounts are over powered 100%.

Multi account are not a double edged sword they are a neat and advantage for the ones who have them.
-Blocking space on islands
-Attacking people annonymously
-Producing more piracy points for the team
-Storing gold
-Storing troops and fleets

-Ruining the wonders on the islands of the opposite team
-Go back to the graveyard and come back to abuse donnation and boost islands for your team

ALL big ambrosia players and most big player have multi accounts for one or many of these reasons. Some deny it some assume it, but in the end they play the same game with those accounts.

Just go try to play the game as intended by the dev without any multi account and go into conflict with a top alliance where they all have at least one additionnal acount each. You will lose, i guaranty you. If not on the military standpoint it will be somewhere else they will infest your islands waste the slots, they will have more money than you, have some millions of troops stored on an account out of nowhere ready to be sold while you waste time producing.
It's not a double edged sword.

Some with the increase of everything costing gold, we need a building which would increase gold production in the town where it is built for all gold producing citizen.
Could be max lvl 50 just like the rest of the reductors/boosters.
OR
A building which would diminish the cost in gold for everything related to the town where it's built.

Yeah and the palace is the governor's residence for the capital. Therefore should count as fulfilling the requirement.

Imagine having a lvl 15 palace but being denied the construction because your capital is not "developped enough" according to the guy who coded the building and FORGOT to include the palace xD

Quote from Draxo

in the end this is meant for high level players with high townhalls and residences.

Guess what high level players also have ? High palaces !
AT LEAST they could accept that we saw their genuine mistake and maybe put it one lvl higher for the palace ?
No, they will not accept it, they will double down on thier mistake and say it was all intentionnal even if the result doesn't make any logical sense. Coorporation talk 101.

EDIT: Also what happens if you move you capital to a town where you don't have a townhall lvl 35 ? The building just deletes itself ? The game doesn't let you do it ?

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Quote from From_The_Dust

Because you cannot have a GR and Palace in the same town ... so the implication is that Palace should be included as the condition is present as an either\or.

No, it should not. These are global requirements.

Yes it should
Such denial is sooo funny to watch lmao

Quote from Draxo

Where is a bug? In the capital you obviously cannot have the Governor's Residence, so you have to have a Townhall at least 35th level.

Ho come on dude have some good faith.

Palace = Governor's Residence
They forgot to configure the conditions for the palace and now you make it sounds like "hum yes, i see no problem here, it was intentionnal yep yep"

Next update please correct the mistake this is what people are asking.

The worst part is that the new, small accounts are not banned.

It goes against the Terms of service in particular the section of "bugusing".

At the begining of the fusion, there was a bug where if you had 1 wood in your donnation inventory, you could give without limitation to ONE forest or mine.
So what people did was just give it to the biggest mine possible. Giving 600m wood out of 1 wood.

That is a bug. It has been corrected.

Now they use what is called by the admins a "founctionnality" which is to go in the graveyard and come back to give again.
The thing is that THIS constitute bugusing because initialy they were not supposed to have 600m donnation.
And now they have it not only one time but any amount of time until somebody in their right mind in the team ban these small accounts.

Quote from Realeg

Well, Draxo said "That's not an abuse, that's just a feature the game developers wanted to leave in the game. I already told these concerns a year ago when they implemented the server merge and the answer was like 'the product team is aware of it but they are ok with this'.". I guess this is the new way of rising the mines nowadays since the dev team is too lazy to fix an unbalanced thing like this

Ho ok i understand so they intentionnaly give an absolutely monstrous advantage to those who already have one.

Maybe we should remind them they are losing money on town teleport and such for gameforge to do something ?

And maybe we should officialy start incorporating this method in every single tutorial for city/island development since it's a wanted feature ?

It's ok i will make sure that as much people as possible are aware of this and that as much people are doing it from now on, i will do it too. No remorses.

So this bug was already reported but ignored and nobody knows why since it's one critical bug and it's really getting on my nerves now so i will make this thread and explain how it work exactly and maybe when everybody understand how easy it is to abuse the game then somebody in charge will do something.

This is not secret to most high tier players already and they already benefited from it anyway, so lets start.

When an account fall into inactivity and disapear, it is sent to the account's graveyard by default and if the person tries to reconnect they will have to undergo the same kind of free account tranfers we had during the fusion. That means that everything from the fusion will be reproduced as if the person was merging server.

that means you get as much town teleportation as your actuall number of town, you get all your donnations back in the inventory, you can place your helios tower again, you get 2 of each steam boost item and one premium account for a week for free.

Yes you understand that very well, all you have to do is wait.

Now let's get real people.
What happens to all those multi accounts you had from the fusion ? Some people had more than one multi-million account which are easy to let fall into inactivity.
These accounts are the new way to cheat donnation for very very high forest and mines which requires 500m donnation to upgrade one level.
you ask your little crew of player who have a bunch of alpha account with 400m+ donnation and you make the account fall inactive and come back, teleport on your island and make all the donnations, rince and repeat.
Ho by the way since these accounts come back with a bunch of teleport why not use those teleport for piracy ? not only do they look like random account but if you ever need it again you can just let it disapear again and you can on another server with it.


Now i want to speak to all of you fair player who see that happening from a while ago.
YOU ARE NOT CRAZY
Yes people are cheating, you are right to call them out, and since they don't get any punishment you should also think about abusing this bug as much as possible. anyway you will never be able to abuse it as much as them because not everybody has a multi-account with 500m donnations.

Alors il existe un bug avec le serveur cimetière qui consiste à laisser un compte disparaître et le ramener à la vie sur le serveur que l'on veut.
Même si le compte est DÉJÀ revenu à la vie, le jeu s'en fou et te redonne TOUT.

Oui oui vous avez bien compris. tout les dons, tout les bonus de prod c'est à dire 2x chaque ressources et un compte premium. Sans compté que si vous aviez déjà une tour d'hélios ca vous en donnera une 2ème ! Youpiiiii

Et du coup là on des situation assez chiante avec des gens qui vont juste acheter des comptes par l'entremise de sites de contrebande de comptes de jeux video (incluant ikariam) pour genre 100$ tu as un compte qui te promet 450 millions de dons.

Du coup bah faites le. Les gens le font depuis bientôt un an et selon les tricheur il n'y a que les cons qui le font pas... sinon ca aurait été patché.

Allé hop au boulot, tous vos multi que vous avez eu grâce à la fusion vous pouvez en abusez, go go go. Dons, tours d'hélios pour vos potes, allé hop au travail, suffit d'attendre que les multi disparaissent et les faire réapparaître.
vous aurez l'air tellement bons, tellement meilleur que les autres avec vos mines monter à coup de bugs de multi, je vous le garanti.
(j'espère que les gens savent noter le sarcasme dans mes propos)

Ask someone who has a bank multi account to give you millions of gold.
You're welcomed.

Juste faire en sorte que n’importe quel réduction de temps de construction coûte 5 ambro, PEU-IMPORTE le temps, leur donnerait un argument de vente qui pourrait convaincre certain d'en profiter.
Mais encore là, même si on considère ca, à part elon musk, jeff bezos et quelque prince d’Arabie saoudite je ne vois pas qui va pouvoir se permettre de jouer à ce jeu avec le but de finir les bâtiments.

Juste finir un dépôt prend plus de 100 ans !
Et on a droit à 3 par villes.
x21 villes = 6300 ans

Cela représente plus de temps qui séparent la Grèce antique de notre époque

Et ca c'est juste les dépôt ptdrrr il y a plein d'autre bâtiments à monter en plus qui nous rajoutent quelque centaines, voir des milliers d'années mdr

Il vont devoir changer les temps de construction c'est beaucoup trop ridicule, aussi bien simplement retirer la limite de niveau et laisser les gens monter à l'infini.
Si le but est de vendre des réduction de temps de construction alors pourquoi mettre une limite hein ? xD

Est-ce que ils ont données des infos sur comment ils ont pris les décisions finales ? Je serais curieux de savoir qui à levé la main pour proposer une idée pareille sans rencontrer d'opposition