Posts by Cheech

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Considering how this idea of the 24/48 hour ban was originally from Deliverance who is one of the best fighters on the server (perseus) I will explain what it was all about as it's not complicated. As gen banks give big alliances an edge and especially with the allowing of multiple accounts this will make it very expensive to use one. Gen banks are only used when fighters need ships and troops fast and some will use it to run a million gens and there really is no skill involved in fighting with this advantage and it makes it very hard for anyone with no gen bank to fight back using skills that were needed before like high level barracks and shipyards and taverns and museums. I have fought with and without gen banks and know the difference very well.

The upkeep on a huge gen bank by the hour is phenomenal when it's open and that's why they don't stay open longer then an hour or so.

The original idea was an account coming out of v.mode cant sell arms or troops for 24(or 48) hours. Then when you spend a week building and beating down a guy with a half a million gens he doesn't magically gain another half a million with a click of the mouse while your population is so low you cant even build 1 hop. Fighting in this game used to involve strategy and skill before gen banks and now it's about who has the biggest gen bank and gold.

Without gen banks wars are fought with alliance members making and selling to the fighters and now with the infinite horizons and upgrades even more so.

It takes a lot of alliance participation like wars did in the old days unlike now where guys will throw in 200,000 troops into an attrition fight and check back in 24 hours and add what's needed. Rinse and repeat for 1000 rounds.

There is very little skill or strategy involved and smaller players do not stand a chance.

That being said the #1 fighter on perseus does not use gen banks but he fights people with banks around 30 million gens and is unbeatable.

He has a lot of support and spends a lot of time online fighting because of skill, strategy and tactics and a lot of people helping him and his small alliance against the 2 of the top alliances in the top 3.

I know he is unbeatable because he was my general on 3 servers so far.

Crow

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I fought about 6 wars building military, then the last one i used banks. The difference is insane. Big man must be completely insane to not use banks considering he's averaged about 3m offence for as long as i remember. I don't like this methodology but i didn't create this game - im not numb in the head

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Have you read this thread? You should.... it seems long, but it is not. Many players said the same thing, they always find another loophole. Some people say the big guys are profitable to the company, that's why things haven't changed much. Others are crazy to see GF's numbers lol

You know what else is profitable? A healthy playerbase. Its slowly getting less - and the new updates are probably driving more people away then bringing them in. Right now im farming someone who's played since old alpha server - im assuming he quit after these updates. But there are ways to bring in new players, they just should be allowed to grow and not over-shadowed by older players. New server, new rules. Even if the devs are completely useless, the bare minimum is allow godly protection until 100k points or 60 days. Listen, im a knowledgeable person but i can say honestly i got farmed until i stopped playing one of the new servers - what chances does a new player have?

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Yea but they have to be out of vmod which allows you to attack them and destroy army, pillage towns, block ports etc... It is not same...

Hmm, they can Vmode it. Even if they pre-built an army up to 100k generals and V mode 5 accounts to protect a main. They don't even need to trade to acquire generals. This is something i would do myself if banks got banned, im just saying there is always alternative. The difference is i would be doing this IP shared, 80% of others will be fighting un-Ip'd. Even if gold got consumed while in vmode, i would still have spare accounts holding their 'maximum' without going into deficit, probably around 70k generals. Now imagine other people aren't confined to 11 accounts (VPN naughties), there could be dozens of accounts holding and building military without having the need to trade or vmode. I will say again, if they are countering banks, they need to counter multi-accounts at the same time otherwise its pointless

I like seeing anti-bank propaganda. And thats from someone who holds banks. I just hope what they want to implement makes sense because i have a strong feeling it probably won't. The large problem is that if they take them out completely, there would always be a way around it or a next best bank idea. I mean.. if 10 accounts hold small militaries to protect 1 big account, there's not much improvement going to happen. I will say again.. there needs a new server, new rules.. there is too much exploits and ways around things at this point, i don't see a good result going to happen without a complete overhaul tackling all of it not just banks. A new, heavy enforced server, no transfers in, no multiaccount, no cheap ambro.. i am sick of saying these same things. I don't even want someone to agree with me, i wan't to hear a DISAGREEMENT. Why can't this work? Don't say time or effort, there is plenty effort in the wrong direction

It's a nice picture, i assume your REIS, the fastest growing accounts. Im going to give you some trivia, for no reason. You came to P5 with what i can only describe as a perfect setup - so perfect that i told the top alliances that they should attack you while you were small 4m accounts otherwise you guys will be a very strong force. Now your all top 10. I mean.. i do hate being right so often. The only thing i didn't get to measure was ability, but unfortunately we left the server and you guys were the only people i had interest left in attacking. And that's not out of dislike.

I can offer almost all information on the account your questioning but unfortunately i gain nothing from their ban, so it doesn't make sense to get involved

Also hi, we never got acquainted

Everyone had the same 3/3 upgrades and forge. You could just look at ikalogs and see for yourself who has ability and who doesn’t

Now it’s primarily just who had more upgrades. A perfect aspect of fairness just swept away and life goes on. We’ve had this discussion, we both have our different opinions. I like this thing that we have, let’s keep doing it. The battle of wills - keyboard edition

Glad to hear they listen, I’ve got hundreds more complaints to lodge

Anyways I didn’t advocate for unit upgrade changes or the +1 to +5 ‘improvement’ - I haven’t been playing, I’ve been graveyarding my accounts for a combat operation that’s basically ruined. Just like my last one from a game bug yippieeeee

I’m holding a minute silence right now in support of this improvement so far. They’ve read the dislike for grey, lack of colour etc and made change

New never ending is bold words for something like a month old. Also needs to be competitive to be never ending and idk if it’s even matchup. The longer it drags on though the better, I will be joining once I’m available ;))

Hmm, normally when people want conflict they look down the list and never up, pick a nice small target and find any excuse to instigate. Generally harass until there is escalation

I genuinely love humbling bigger opponents but right now I’m king of asphodel and workshopless. One day

Gordos!!! Ooooooh yeah. Yeeeeah buddy. Ima big fan and big purchaser of taco tuesdays special. You get em twiger

Oooooo yeah, oooooooh yeeeah. Drama, suspense, competition. A nice healthy start to a lifeless server. Keep me posted, I am Gandalf the not relevant and I want too see events that unfold from afar. They are big sleepy sleepy giants on euoooriodwykeíë

Also I like to bring this up at every opportunity. They haven’t fixed the bug of disappearing units to my knowledge. I lost a filthy amount of Spartans (as well as other units) and since it was a trade and not a purchase the ‘proof’ wasn’t there to get them replaced. And even if I did purchase them on my account, it would mean relying on the ticket system to get them back. In my experience I’ve never had resolve through the ticket system in this game -or any game so slight disclaimer, at your own risk because I certainly won’t. I actually don’t hold over 200kMS incase it all disappears again. Anyways, enjoy your day

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Right now I can tell you that Hoplites upgraded to Level 14 kick butt against Spartans. So much so that it's not really worth fielding them.

This, of course, means it's not worth buying them.

mmmm, compared to before? Yeah, yeah Spartans are worse. But I had no forge with Spartans and fella had hoplites forged around 15/15 and it was almost the same losses. Not a disaster, in terms of balance reworks they are quite a few before it. I am for Spartans getting buffed though - purely so there is something anyone can access to counter these ridiculous upgrades

I really really really like this idea

***If it was pre-workshop upgrades

That’s all.

Now I don’t think I would bother. I’ve already said gauntlets are USELESS now, this would be the same.

Also, don’t give an attack boost to the champions, I like fair gameplay not domination

Also 2 weeks isn’t a long enough war season, my opinion

Apart from that, lovely

Hmm, I’ve read a few of these, I can’t cross reference points because I’m on different device.

First, I love bombing. I see complaints. I agree with Barbarossa, the best fleet is none. My last operation I had only large land armies built for offline attacks, small ports and only 1 mediocre fleet only to penetrate an island. This update changes, my army could get cleaned out overnight now. There are counters, I’m simply pointing out this update creates alot of problems for me

second, your language makes it sound like I’m bullying farms and mad I can’t. I have only fought tyrants, i have not attacked anyone that I believe can’t fight back. I get nothing from that. I’m simply saying if a top player decides to go hostile on the server which you see a lot, it’s gg well played. I’m not sure why you would want a gap between big and small, it just means oppression which I am AGAINST.

Quick point too. I have fought to defend my and other alliances every single time. Every single time. I am not gambling with points. Maybe it is better for me to sit back, do nothing and rack up resources. Your right

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I honestly don't see what the big deal is with the new system, though, but that's probably because I played Ogame before Ikariam. In Ogame, you always had w/s/a (equivalent to Ikariam's upgrades, but for all ships and defense).

If you want to go around attacking other players, this is a good system for you, because you're incentivized to upgrade your troops and the more you upgrade, the greater your battlefield advantage should be.

Every post complaining about it is always around the lines of "what if someone has more upgrades than me?!" which, well, increase your upgrades, th

The Balance of the game was around the fact that an account with 2million score can fight 1:1 against a player with 200million score and win.

Now, developed accounts used to have the following advantages:
1:Way More action points
2:More attack and defense positions
3:More Occupation and Block availability
4:Way More gold income
5:Less CDs of miracles
6:Way Faster creation of troops and navy
7:48lv walls


But at least armies were matched. All you had to do was make gold, buy army and fight with an actual chance!

And now, Ikariam BROKE the game. No more balance whatsoever.
I have +6/6 Gyrocopters and when I fight against +12/12 (or more), by second round I lose 30 out of 40 per round, while the enemy loses 6.

So I have to invest 5x more resources compared to the whale huh?

Conclusion: Ikariam lost it's balance. Gameforge gave you the solution - buy ambrosia, buy crystal and gold, upgrade. That is their business model. Force players into a Pay to Play scenario.

I am not paying. I am leaving.

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Oooooh buddy gyrocopters aren't the issue. I acually manage to pull ahead of an upgrade account for gyros, even withour a forge. Hoplite aren't so bad. Swords are absolutely disgusting. Im never breaking a wall in my life again. My town halls might even have to go down to smallest battlefield to take out flanks. Fluck gameforge. And i really don't have time to type aaaaaah

Ugh, its late. Someone said before, there are 3 types of people, builders, fighters and pirates. If you've even set up a building accounts - it's almost opposite to a fighting account. Almost nothing is similar, hense growth gets severely staggered while fighting. Don't say 'i pillage alot', You need to pillage miliions of miilions per day to even pay off these large army upkeeps. It's not profitable. I would give you an example. 2 people started on the same server, im about 5million score, the other person is about 60m. I have never been out of combat for over 2months say, whereas the other person has only built and not seen combat. Not atall. Good so far, this is my issue. This man who chose the building path would be able to out-fight me now. He's not good at combat, doesn't know the game but he will beat me by workshop upgrades. So now Builders (or farms, whatever you want to call them) are beating combat based people. Im at a loose, loose. GG gameforge. The last type of people are pirate people. They are bots and feeders, no one cares about them. They play a minigame for some reason, idk

fortunately for you, larger accounts do have larger advantages. At the cost of everything

Crow, lastly. Perseus is a strong server. I spent a graveyard cycle on it. The very first day i was getting pillaged ahaha. I have read the reports on ikalogs, i got some background knowledge on the alliances. They are other good servers too but they are definitely levels between some ones. Anyways, have fun