Posts by User12996

  • Give a better overview of upgrades (general + Ikariam PLUS)

    Gotcha. Well you misinterpreted Mike's point. He's talking about just verifying minimum upgrade requirements and not using the general to force other people to do stuff.

  • Give a better overview of upgrades (general + Ikariam PLUS)

    1. Is English your second language? What Mike means is he wants an easy way to say "Everyone in this alliance needs their hoplites upgraded to at least 12/12." Then, he wants the general to be able to verify that everyone has met the minimum requirement.


    2. He wanted an easier way to see all the upgrades as a premium feature. Yes, you can see it in the WS, but you have to hover each one. It'd be much better for a view that shows:


    Hoplites 3 (+15) / 3 (+15)

    Spearman 3 (+15) / 2 (+10)

    etc.

  • Maximum GODS SHRINE bonus

    Quote from Morphias
    Quote from User12996

    Even the regular boosters go up to 140%. I'd be surprised if the God's shrine stopped earlier.

    But regular boosters have to be built in each city, 1 for each resource -- You only build 1 shrine, it boosts ALL resources

    Right, but in terms of cap, I can't see how they'd cap the god's shrine lower than the regular boosters.


    And the shrine doesn't boost all resources. It boosts one resource per city.

  • Pillaging far away targets

    It's quicker than it's ever been because of CF. If you build a high enough CF, you can quickly build the town out. A lot quicker than you think. Also low level warehouses build super fast now, even without CF, so it's easy to get plenty of storage.


    A small mobile town is a small battlefield size if you play the garrison correctly so it's much, much easier to defend.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    You can use the formula: =CEILING(Ships*20 / (500 + Upgrades*20)) to compute the minimum number of ships you'd have to buy to generate the same increase in capacity.


    You can then use =SUMPRODUCT(3 * (4500 * 1.03^(ROW(INDIRECT(Ships+1 & ":" & Ships + Ceiling))) - 4475)) to compute the total gold cost of buying ships.


    But for upgrades you'd have to manually plug in each upgrade cost and I want a formula that computes it dynamically.


    So, in the end I ended up making a simple version here: https://docs.google.com/spreadā€¦KH3IIick/edit?usp=sharing but it requires you inputting the price of the upgrades instead of computing the price dynamically, which is what I'd prefer.


    The example price is also with Optician 50, and ideally, you'd put the level of Optician in the formula.


    But the point was that I wanted someone else to make this, not me.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    For example, you can currently use the following formula to compute the cost of the next ship: {\displaystyle {S_{n}=3\times \lbrack 4,500\times 1.03^{n}-4,475\rbrack }}


    So the first ship is 480 and the 301st ship is 98,691,404 and you can use a formula to calculate it.


    As far as I know, there's currently no known formula to calculate the upgrade cost of the trading ships. If you could, then you'd input your current number of ships, your current upgrade level, the optician level where your workshop is located, the equivalent gold cost of crystal and it'd do the following:


    We'll assume that the current person has 300 ships purchased and 5 upgrades, so they hold 600 each.


    Any upgrade would provide 6k space, so you'd compute the equivalent cost of that in ships, which is 10. You'd then sum the gold costs for ships 301 to 310 and compare that against the equivalent gold cost of the next upgrade. Whichever is cheaper would be the recommended path.


    More realistically, you'd just change the upgrade level from 5 to 6, and then it'd do the same computation again, and recommend either the next X ships or upgrade 6.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    Also, here's the cost of a level 89 workshop so it goes higher than 50. They changed the help so it scales to the level of your building. I currently have a level 43 workshop on the test server:

    89 64.50M 64.87M 9D 4h

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    It's easy to calculate on an individual upgrade level, but without the cost of all the upgrades, you can't make a calculator that tells you, for example, upgrade boats until upgrade X, then buy Y ships, then do upgrade X+1.


    Without that upgrade cost table, you can't make a calculator that determines when you should stop upgrading, and can only analyze it one upgrade at a time.


    If we had a full cost table of upgrades as we already do with ships, then you can simply make a formula that's effectively, if you have X number of ships, you want to upgrade to Y number of upgrades before you buy ships.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    Also, part of the reason for diminishing returns is adding 20 capacity to 500 is a 4% increase but adding 20 capacity to 1500 is a 1.3% increase. The only way to avoid diminishing returns would be for every upgrade to increase capacity by 1.04^level of upgrade. This would make a level 11 upgrade give 40 extra capacity instead of 20.


    DIAS I've no idea when buying additional ships over take upgrades or vice versa, but I'm sure that'd be interesting to all of us. Going to 75 upgrades was simply to project a value far into the future.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    If the target is 2h round trip away, for each additional 8k in capacity (20*400), you can see how much more total res you can loot per day. Yes, there are diminishing returns, but it's still a net positive. Also, there's a reason to cross compare adding another ship versus adding more capacity to your existing ships.



    Cargo Ships 400 Capacity Loading Time (Minutes) Round Trip Trips Per Day Total Res Per Day
    Travel Time 240 500 33.33 273.33 5.27 1,053,659
    Minutes Per Day 1440 520 34.67 274.67 5.24 1,090,485
    540 36.00 276.00 5.22 1,126,957
    560 37.33 277.33 5.19 1,163,077
    580 38.67 278.67 5.17 1,198,852
    600 40.00 280.00 5.14 1,234,286
    620 41.33 281.33 5.12 1,269,384
    640 42.67 282.67 5.09 1,304,151
    660 44.00 284.00 5.07 1,338,592
    680 45.33 285.33 5.05 1,372,710
    700 46.67 286.67 5.02 1,406,512
    720 48.00 288.00 5.00 1,440,000
    740 49.33 289.33 4.98 1,473,180
    760 50.67 290.67 4.95 1,506,055
    780 52.00 292.00 4.93 1,538,630
    800 53.33 293.33 4.91 1,570,909
    820 54.67 294.67 4.89 1,602,896
    840 56.00 296.00 4.86 1,634,595
    860 57.33 297.33 4.84 1,666,009
    880 58.67 298.67 4.82 1,697,143
    900 60.00 300.00 4.80 1,728,000
    920 61.33 301.33 4.78 1,758,584
    940 62.67 302.67 4.76 1,788,899
    960 64.00 304.00 4.74 1,818,947
    980 65.33 305.33 4.72 1,848,734
    1000 66.67 306.67 4.70 1,878,261
    1020 68.00 308.00 4.68 1,907,532
    1040 69.33 309.33 4.66 1,936,552
    1060 70.67 310.67 4.64 1,965,322
    1080 72.00 312.00 4.62 1,993,846
    1100 73.33 313.33 4.60 2,022,128
    1120 74.67 314.67 4.58 2,050,169
    1140 76.00 316.00 4.56 2,077,975
    1160 77.33 317.33 4.54 2,105,546
    1180 78.67 318.67 4.52 2,132,887
    1200 80.00 320.00 4.50 2,160,000
    1220 81.33 321.33 4.48 2,186,888
    1240 82.67 322.67 4.46 2,213,554
    1260 84.00 324.00 4.44 2,240,000
    1280 85.33 325.33 4.43 2,266,230
    1300 86.67 326.67 4.41 2,292,245
    1320 88.00 328.00 4.39 2,318,049
    1340 89.33 329.33 4.37 2,343,644
    1360 90.67 330.67 4.35 2,369,032
    1380 92.00 332.00 4.34 2,394,217
    1400 93.33 333.33 4.32 2,419,200
    1420 94.67 334.67 4.30 2,443,984
    1440 96.00 336.00 4.29 2,468,571
    1460 97.33 337.33 4.27 2,492,964
    1480 98.67 338.67 4.25 2,517,165
    1500 100.00 340.00 4.24 2,541,176
    1520 101.33 341.33 4.22 2,565,000
    1540 102.67 342.67 4.20 2,588,638
    1560 104.00 344.00 4.19 2,612,093
    1580 105.33 345.33 4.17 2,635,367
    1600 106.67 346.67 4.15 2,658,462
    1620 108.00 348.00 4.14 2,681,379
    1640 109.33 349.33 4.12 2,704,122
    1660 110.67 350.67 4.11 2,726,692
    1680 112.00 352.00 4.09 2,749,091
    1700 113.33 353.33 4.08 2,771,321
    1720 114.67 354.67 4.06 2,793,383
    1740 116.00 356.00 4.04 2,815,281
    1760 117.33 357.33 4.03 2,837,015
    1780 118.67 358.67 4.01 2,858,587
    1800 120.00 360.00 4.00 2,880,000
    1820 121.33 361.33 3.99 2,901,255
    1840 122.67 362.67 3.97 2,922,353
    1860 124.00 364.00 3.96 2,943,297
    1880 125.33 365.33 3.94 2,964,088
    1900 126.67 366.67 3.93 2,984,727
    1920 128.00 368.00 3.91 3,005,217
    1940 129.33 369.33 3.90 3,025,560
    1960 130.67 370.67 3.88 3,045,755
    1980 132.00 372.00 3.87 3,065,806
    2000 133.33 373.33 3.86 3,085,714

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    Except no one is pillaging 24/7 and for scenarios with more realistic travel time, for example, 60+ minutes, the extra storage space does increase the amount of res per day.


    Your chart is intentionally misleading as if you're always pillaging someone 0 to 1 islands away.


    Do multiple charts with adjustable travel time and you'll see the benefit much more clearly, but you're likely trying to skew the numbers for faster loading time.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    No, the marginal utility doesn't decrease because you're looking more. Once you hit 1520 per ship, you're still getting more loot over time because you're getting over 3x the loot on one unit of travel time.

  • Infinite Horizons 2

    Quote from The crow

    Funny how fast they close these posts when you expose them.


    [mod='badidol']Warned for repeated spam and flame, continuing despite being warned.[/mod]

    You aren't exposing anything though.


    You need to participate in the new system and upgrade your units, knowing that, yes, large accounts can have an advantage, but they have to pay 10x as much as you did for a +3/+3 upgrade advantage and that upgrades have diminishing returns (as in the % of power increase diminishes as more and more upgrades are applied).