Posts by apepaperoue

    The level of workshop is 29 for the 1st upgrade

    and then for every single lvl you need new lvl of workshop so if you are intersted to succeed lvl 9 you wiil need (29+9) 38 lvl of workshop


    if your account is small (or you have less than 200-250 ships) you have to consider that every uprade of the cargo will effect the time loading of yours ships

    - also it will effect the time loading after a pillage of a full capacity ships


    i think its for the best to upgrade your cargo ships

    Καλησπέρα,

    υπάρχει ένα πρόβλημα στην νέα έκδοση, είτε μπορείτε να τσεκάρετε και οι ίδιοι: πόσες αναφορές από κατασκόπους σας κρατάει ?

    εμένα δυστυχώς φαίνεται ότι είναι μόλις οι τελευταίες 10 (ενώ ειλικρινά κρατάω περίπου 30-40 αναφορές)


    κάθε φορά που θα κάνω μία καινούρια δυστυχώς αφαιρεί την 11η και παραμένουν 10

    δυστυχώς δεν είδα κάποια αναφορά από κάποιον αλλά κοιτάξτε το παρακαλώ

    Hello, everyone

    first of all i don't know how to create formulas in maths for every unit (attack and defence),


    the only thing i noticed is that every new lvl of these units has the same amount of the previous and you can add something like (70% or 65% of 60 %) in order to take the exact number. But every unit is different both for gold and glass


    so the only thing you can do without formulas is to make an assumption of these percentages, (for how much % you can add in every lvl)


    if you have units the percentages for the first 10 lvls for the hoplite (offence )are:

    lvl 4 - lvl 5 : 96.3% gold / 91.9 glass

    lvl 5 - lvl 6 : 82.1% gold / 77.6 glass ( -14% / -14.3%)

    lvl 6 - lvl 7 : 71.6% gold / 67.3 glass ( -10.5% / -10.3%)

    lvl 7 - lvl 8 : 63.8% gold / 59.6 glass ( -7.8% / -7.7%)

    lvl 8 - lvl 9 : 57.9% gold / 53.8 glass ( -5.9% / -5.8%)

    lvl 9 - lvl 10 : 53.2% gold / 49.3 glass ( -4.7% / -4.5%)


    and defence are:

    lvl 4 - lvl 5 : 108.4% gold / 95.3 glass

    lvl 5 - lvl 6 : 87.7% gold / 77.7 glass ( -20.7% / -17.6%)

    lvl 6 - lvl 7 : 73.6% gold / 65.7 glass ( -14.1% / -12.0%)

    lvl 7 - lvl 8 : 63.7% gold / 57.2 glass ( -9.9% / -8.5%)

    lvl 8 - lvl 9 : 56.3% gold / 50.9 glass ( -7.4% / -6.3%)

    lvl 9 - lvl 10 : 50.7% gold / 46.0 glass ( -5.6% / -4.9%)

    lvl 10 - lvl 11 : 46.3% gold / 42.2 glass ( -4.4% / -3.8%)


    so nothing its stable but you can understand that the percentage reduces for every next lvl

    so make an assumption for the next lvls 12-20 lvls of percentages

    for example you can go with: (defence gold)

    12 lvl 42.6

    13 lvl 39.4

    14 lvl 36.6

    15 lvl 34.1

    16 lvl 31.8

    17 lvl 29.7

    18 lvl 27.8

    19 lvl 26.0

    20 lvl 24.3

    and if you go there you can have a number for gold something like: 92,500,000 from lvl 4 to lvl 20 only for defence


    i can't do for all units but as you understand it's only an assumption

    the only thing you have to consider is that the units hit a max lvl (so check if they can get 20 lvl of upgrades)

    you have 25 units and ships

    3,000,000,000 i think is a good number for gold... so try to steal gold :P or create cities in glass

    1,000,000,000 of glass its also a good number (because if you devide its something like 3 or 4 times bigger the amount of gold)


    i have to make a propose: consider creating islands just for gold (make them rare) like one per 15 islands and a player can have only one city there

    we have to mine gold somehow :P or mine something and create to gold ... so everyone can steal gold again or steal something like a bar of gold

    anyway


    all that for now ... i'm leveling up the palace (15lvl) and i can't go for the units upgrade till next year :P (as i did the presentation 2 months ago) so only assumptions

    but i think if more people just sent the exact numbers of gold and glass per their lvl ... we will have a good estimation of what is happening there very soon

    So the ships (first the cargo)

    for lvl 10 of cargo:

    for gold: 23,448,421

    for crystal: 9,546,811




    Cargo Gold Glass
    LvL 1 8000 4500 1h add + 20
    LvL 2 25158 12001 2 h add + 20 214% 167%
    LvL 3 93777 40982 1h add + 20 273% 241%
    LvL 4 269143 133580 3 h add + 20 187% 226%
    LvL 5 625609 259359 1h add + 20 132% 94%
    LvL 6 1256504 515466 4 h add + 20 101% 99%
    LvL 7 2274282 926917 1h add + 20 81% 80%
    LvL 8 3810825 1546958 5 h add + 20 68% 67%
    LvL 9 6017833 2437493 1h add + 20 58% 58%
    LvL 10 9067290 3669555 6 h add + 20 51% 51%




    for the 8 lvl of ships

    for gold: 37,256,606

    for crystal: 12,985,220



    Fire Ship Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 60043 18406 30435 9915
    LvL 5 137432 39982 67282 21362 129% 117% 121% 115%
    LvL 6 277256 77756 133034 41461 102% 94% 98% 94%
    LvL 7 509012 139195 241694 74353 84% 79% 82% 79%
    LvL 8 870131 233990 411638 125518 71% 68% 70% 69%
    Steam Ram Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 126468 76690 89176 33665
    LvL 5 283400 179686 198587 73430 124% 134% 123% 118%
    LvL 6 560360 364218 392474 142808 98% 103% 98% 94%
    LvL 7 1008785 665579 708689 254922 80% 83% 81% 79%
    LvL 8 1691385 1126152 1194645 426414 68% 69% 69% 67%
    Ram-Ship Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 25558 8152 13302 4583
    LvL 5 55605 16963 27911 9707 118% 108% 110% 112%
    LvL 6 108367 31868 52949 18581 95% 88% 90% 91%
    LvL 7 194706 55642 93313 33036 80% 75% 76% 78%
    LvL 8 329015 91932 155575 55564 69% 65% 67% 68%
    Ballista Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 17327 5828 30435 9915
    LvL 5 37878 12476 67282 21362 119% 114% 121% 115%
    LvL 6 74061 23962 133034 41461 96% 92% 98% 94%
    LvL 7 133606 42572 241694 74353 80% 78% 82% 79%
    LvL 8 226954 71361 411638 125518 70% 68% 70% 69%
    Catapult Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 42138 13459 63329 18406
    LvL 5 94618 29701 145792 39982 125% 121% 130% 117%
    LvL 6 187960 58452 294785 77756 99% 97% 102% 94%
    LvL 7 341234 105732 541738 139195 82% 81% 84% 79%
    LvL 8 578919 179482 926537 233990 70% 70% 71% 68%
    Mortar Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 84769 27679 174432 55542
    LvL 5 190993 60816 399285 123932 125% 120% 129% 123%
    LvL 6 379232 118631 799125 243714 99% 95% 100% 97%
    LvL 7 686237 212060 1449323 436801 81% 79% 81% 79%
    LvL 8 1158039 354970 2441080 730102 69% 67% 68% 67%
    Rocket Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 161597 55769 92479 27039
    LvL 5 360606 123153 207202 57513 123% 121% 124% 113%
    LvL 6 711823 241174 410500 109670 97% 96% 98% 91%
    LvL 7 1280478 431421 742065 192617 80% 79% 81% 76%
    LvL 8 2146094 720409 1251612 317773 68% 67% 69% 65%
    Diving Boat Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 209945 68310 84769 27679
    LvL 5 482667 155039 190993 60816 130% 127% 125% 120%
    LvL 6 971287 309263 379232 118631 101% 99% 99% 95%
    LvL 7 1769257 560053 686237 212060 82% 81% 81% 79%
    LvL 8 2988803 942588 1158039 354970 69% 68% 69% 67%
    Paddle Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 165300 71678 237613 83707
    LvL 5 363212 160379 538460 185351 120% 124% 127% 121%
    LvL 6 708326 316921 1061480 362597 95% 98% 97% 96%
    LvL 7 1260439 570379 1904954 646156 78% 80% 79% 78%
    LvL 8 2090880 956197 3176038 1072659 66% 68% 67% 66%
    Ballon Carrier Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 516778 133530 814530 90049
    LvL 5 1180920 293656 181303 204650 129% 120% -78% 127%
    LvL 6 2350253 569498 358248 409975 99% 94% 98% 100%
    LvL 7 4220675 1005448 646833 745292 80% 77% 81% 82%
    LvL 8 7013904 1653235 1090327 1257761 66% 64% 69% 69%

    So i stopped 10 days before doing this and there are some numbers of the upgrade costs per unit. (the reason is that i just want to upgrade the ships and the cargo ships in near future and i needed the crystal)

    - The last 4 columns just refer to the % difference per level, and it seems that as the level grows the cost is a bit lower every time

    - The cost of the crystal is for lvl 50 of the optician

    - so in numbers if someone want a lvl 8 of all army units this is for

    gold: 25,217,366

    crystal: 7,982,454

    i understand that the cost of these lvls its way too small for medium and big accounts, but i think we will lack of gold in near future :P


    As the max lvl of the workshop is 81 there are some units like the Hoplite that can achieve 81-4 = 77 lvls i think this is crazy for today's numbers and productions but anything can happen in this game (or there are some hidden top lvls that we don't know till today)


    in next post (later today) i wiil have the ship units


    hope it will help!!!



    Hoplite Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 13672 4611 44671 13752
    Lvl 5 26842 8847 93096 26855 96% 92% 108% 95%
    LvL 6 48874 15711 174701 47714 82% 78% 88% 78%
    LvL 7 83858 26277 303289 79064 72% 67% 74% 66%
    LvL 8 137349 41944 496388 124280 64% 60% 64% 57%
    LvL 9 216827 64527 776030 187497 58% 54% 56% 51%
    LvL 10 332281 96363     53% 49%
    LvL 11     1711379 389187
    Steam Giant Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 90268 30765 90268 30765
    Lvl 5 188195 65549 188195 65549 108% 113% 108% 113%
    LvL 6 353217 125295 353217 125295 88% 91% 88% 91%
    LvL 7 613252 220942 613252 220942 74% 76% 74% 76%
    LvL 8 1003740 366528 1003740 366528 64% 66% 64% 66%
    LvL 9 1569238 579865 1569238 579865 56% 58% 56% 58%
    Spearman Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 31886 9608 10845 3463
    Lvl 5 69233 18968 20243 6070 117% 97% 87% 75%
    LvL 6 134099 33867 35129 9969 94% 79% 74% 64%
    LvL 7 239097 56260 57843 15638 78% 66% 65% 57%
    LvL 8 400675 88557 91567 23708 68% 57% 58% 52%
    Swordsman Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 31886 9608 10845 3463
    Lvl 5 69233 18968 20243 6070 117% 97% 87% 75%
    LvL 6 134099 33867 35129 9969 94% 79% 74% 64%
    LvL 7 239097 56260 57843 15638 78% 66% 65% 57%
    LvL 8 400675 88557 91567 23708 68% 57% 58% 52%
    Slinger Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 5654 1773 5654 1773
    Lvl 5 9915 2917 9915 2917 75% 65% 75% 65%
    LvL 6 16545 4592 16545 4592 67% 57% 67% 57%
    LvL 7 26566 6998 26566 6998 61% 52% 61% 52%
    LvL 8 41385 10399 41385 10399 56% 49% 56% 49%
    Archer Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 57226 19730 8505 2706
    Lvl 5 126813 43754 18268 5408 122% 122% 115% 100%
    LvL 6 248225 85670 35642 9904 96% 96% 95% 83%
    LvL 7 444424 153406 64536 16966 79% 79% 81% 71%
    LvL 8 744535 257016 110304 27604 68% 68% 71% 63%
    Sulphur Carabineer Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 84164 28105 13672 4913
    Lvl 5 177786 59312 26842 9687 111% 111% 96% 97%
    LvL 6 335555 111902 48874 17673 89% 89% 82% 82%
    LvL 7 584160 194770 83858 30355 74% 74% 72% 72%
    LvL 8 957483 319211 137349 49746 64% 64% 64% 64%
    Ram Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 13672 4761 90268 31529
    Lvl 5 26842 9370 188195 68068 96% 97% 108% 116%
    LvL 6 48874 17081 353217 131321 82% 82% 88% 93%
    LvL 7 83858 29326 613252 233062 72% 72% 74% 77%
    LvL 8 137349 48048 1003740 388308 64% 64% 64% 67%
    Catapult Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 90268 30232 60876 29636
    Lvl 5 188195 64372 128133 66704 108% 113% 110% 125%
    LvL 6 353217 123012 241473 131883 88% 91% 88% 98%
    LvL 7 613252 216887 420068 237701 74% 76% 74% 80%
    LvL 8 1003740 359777 688260 399945 64% 66% 64% 68%
    Mortar Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 181409 49620 99239 33885
    Lvl 5 412686 100814 201627 68912 127% 103% 103% 103%
    LvL 6 823950 185458 370916 126827 100% 84% 84% 84%
    LvL 7 1492724 316746 633492 216655 81% 71% 71% 71%
    LvL 8 2512818 511256 1022512 349741 68% 61% 61% 61%
    Gyrocotper Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 46146 15497 44361 15014
    Lvl 5 98323 32226 98538 33364 113% 108% 122% 122%
    LvL 6 187941 60511 194141 65746 91% 88% 97% 97%
    LvL 7 331411 105363 350386 118667 76% 74% 80% 80%
    LvL 8 549791 173285 592073 200529 66% 64% 69% 69%
    Balloon-Bombardier Offense Defense
    Gold Glass Gold Glass
    LvL 4 305551 95952 86228 26305
    Lvl 5 713561 214268 196768 56997 134% 123% 128% 117%
    LvL 6 1453431 420586 394173 110130 104% 96% 100% 93%
    LvL 7 2676374 750654 717586 195592 84% 78% 82% 78%
    LvL 8 4568064 1247113 1215720 325999 71% 66% 69% 67%

    Καλησπέρα αναφέρομαι στον πίνακα των αντεπιθέσεων

    γράφονται οι εξής μονάδες επίπεδο 41


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    165 πλοία για λεηλασία

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    Επίπεδο 41 αντεπίθεση ήρθα αντιμέτωπος με τα παρακάτω

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    = 969 μοναδες

    είναι πολύ καλή δουλειά που έχει αναρτηθεί χωρίς να ξέρω την πηγή της ... ίσως κάποιες μικρολεπτομέρειες πρέπει να διορθωθούν


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