Posts by The crow

    Lets not make it complicated, a 24 hour trade ban on anyone coming out of v.mode for ships or troops will cure the problem.


    Untill that happens the conveyor belt of ships,troops and gold will continue to run freely and honest players that build their own dont stand much of a chance.


    It's an easy fix that wont hurt a single honest player.


    Sampisa,Thanks for forwarding our concerns.

    Todays battles against the gen banks. Keep in mind this go's on every day 24/7 for months.

    A trade ban on v.moding gen banks would end this overnight and hurt only the cheaters because honest players dont pack 10 million gens and only log in for an hour when needed.


    God bless Deliverance and the rest of the server that has dealt with pga for supporting him.

    Try fighting this for years and yes I mean years.


    This is only a few cr,s of a half a dozen for today alone.

    This game was not meant to be played like this.




    Battle for Chicken Warrior

    (27.07.2020 5:06:01)

    Barbarians from Barbarian Village, kourosh-pga[P G A] from PGA power, Death emperor[P G A] from PGA power, total[P G A] from PGA power, warrior 10, REVENGE007[P G A] from ArTOn, warrior 11, PGA power, warrior 10, warrior 8

    vs

    Matcap[ABY] from Marble P2, Markoni[ABY] from Marconicis11, Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior, ArTOn


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sulphur Carabineer...................1008(-0) - Sulphur Carabineer...................2685(-0)

    Swordsman.........................8866(-2632) - Swordsman..........................416(-3672)

    Hoplite...........................8585(-4152) - Hoplite...........................1806(-4487)

    Steam Giant..........................284(-16) - .............................................

    Battering Ram.........................240(-0) - Battering Ram.........................693(-0)

    Doctor.................................50(-0) - Doctor................................258(-0)

    Cook..................................210(-0) - Cook..................................330(-0)

    ............................................. - Slinger................................49(-0)

    ............................................. - Spearman...............................82(-0)

    Gyrocopter.........................2829(-268) - Gyrocopter..........................230(-964)

    ............................................. - Spartan.................................4(-0)

    Mortar................................120(-0) - .............................................

    Balloon-Bombardier....................0(-474) - .............................................

    Barbarians...........................42(-288) - .............................................

    Barbarian Knifeman....................140(-0) - .............................................

    Barbarian Catapult.....................30(-0) - .............................................

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Generals.............................-12489.6 - Generals.............................-13098.2

    Offensive points......................32745.5 - Defence points..........................31224

    Damage Received........................624480 - Damage Received........................654910

    Damage Percent............................48% - Damage Percent............................52%


    Deliverance Message Chicken Warrior [21:30] 27.07.2020 5:15:43

    2130



    Sea battle near ArTOn

    (27.07.2020 5:08:45)

    Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior

    vs

    Silv3R[P G A] from TesT, s007[P G A] from s007 5, total[P G A] from warrior 11, kourosh-pga[P G A] from PGA power, Death emperor[P G A] from Only P G A, REVENGE007[P G A] from under world 10, warrior 7, nevada8, Joseph, Shadow of Night[P G A] from Persi4n United


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    Ram Ship............................536(-414) - Ram Ship...........................1736(-414)

    Mortar Ship...........................294(-0) - Mortar Ship...........................578(-0)

    Steam Ram...........................525(-325) - Steam Ram..........................1768(-237)

    Rocket Ship..........................158(-92) - Rocket Ship..........................340(-92)

    Paddle Speedboat......................650(-0) - Paddle Speedboat.....................4220(-0)

    Balloon Carrier......................204(-46) - Balloon Carrier.....................1101(-46)

    Tender.................................20(-0) - Tender.................................84(-0)

    Fire Ship..............................6(-41) - Fire Ship............................10(-254)

    Catapult Ship..........................56(-0) - .............................................

    Diving Boat...........................100(-0) - .............................................

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Generals.............................-13988.2 - Generals.............................-13196.8

    Offensive points........................32992 - Defence points........................34970.5

    Damage Received........................699410 - Damage Received........................659840

    Damage Percent............................51% - Damage Percent............................49%



    Deliverance Message Tubut Verismaul [38:51] 27.07.2020 5:20:03


    Sea battle near PGA power

    (27.07.2020 5:19:16)

    Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior

    vs

    total[P G A] from warrior 11, Shadow of Night[P G A] from Persi4n United, javadi[P G A] from King Artaxerxes, Polis, Sulfurtown 2, Death emperor[P G A] from Only P G A, REVENGE007[P G A] from under world 10, warrior 7, nevada8, Joseph, Spain, PGAShamse Kabir[P G A] from Only P G A 8, S H A H I N, kourosh-pga[P G A] from PGA power


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Ram Ship............................436(-414) - Ram Ship...........................5693(-414)

    Fire Ship..............................4(-43) - Fire Ship.............................7(-285)

    Mortar Ship...........................294(-0) - Mortar Ship...........................937(-0)

    Steam Ram...........................419(-331) - Steam Ram..........................2830(-221)

    Rocket Ship..........................158(-92) - Rocket Ship.........................1514(-92)

    Paddle Speedboat......................650(-0) - Paddle Speedboat.....................4871(-0)

    Balloon Carrier......................204(-46) - Balloon Carrier......................428(-46)

    Tender.................................20(-0) - Tender................................135(-0)

    Diving Boat............................50(-0) - .............................................

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Generals.............................-14144.6 - Generals...............................-13005

    Offensive points......................32512.5 - Defence points........................35361.5

    Damage Received........................707230 - Damage Received........................650250

    Damage Percent............................52% - Damage Percent............................48%

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    Deliverance Message Tubut Verismaul [38:51] 27.07.2020 5:20:32

    Sea battle near warrior 8

    (27.07.2020 5:01:18)

    Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior

    vs

    total[P G A] from warrior 11, Death emperor[P G A] from Polis, REVENGE007[P G A] from under world 10, warrior 11, nevada8, warrior 7, warrior 10, Joseph


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    Ram Ship.............................58(-342) - Ram Ship............................582(-342)

    Mortar Ship...........................168(-0) - Mortar Ship...........................168(-0)

    Steam Ram............................33(-287) - Steam Ram...........................612(-204)

    Rocket Ship...........................54(-76) - Rocket Ship..........................183(-76)

    Paddle Speedboat......................300(-0) - Paddle Speedboat......................240(-0)

    Balloon Carrier......................112(-38) - Balloon Carrier.......................62(-38)

    Tender.................................20(-0) - Tender.................................32(-0)

    ............................................. - Fire Ship.............................5(-187)

    Catapult Ship...........................8(-0) - .............................................

    Diving Boat............................50(-0) - .............................................

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Generals...............................-11790 - Generals.............................-10957.4

    Offensive points......................27393.5 - Defence points..........................29475

    Damage Received........................589500 - Damage Received........................547870

    Damage Percent............................51% - Damage Percent............................49%

    Another of todays battles.

    These have run 24/7 non stop for months and years against the same people.


    NON STOP!


    Battle for PGA power

    (26.07.2020 4:47:11)

    Markoni[ABY] from Chicken Warrior, Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior, warrior 5

    vs

    Death emperor[P G A] from under world 10, kourosh-pga[P G A] from Polis, SF City, Campbell, Palo alto, Half Moon Bay, Destiny, Silv3R[P G A] from NAKHLL, REVENGE007[P G A] from under world 10, Joseph, S H A H I N, warrior 10



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    Sulphur Carabineer...................336(-63) - Sulphur Carabineer...................1347(-0)

    Swordsman........................1381(-14465) - Swordsman........................6434(-14412)

    Hoplite..........................1317(-18693) - Hoplite.........................11114(-18283)

    Steam Giant...........................0(-116) - Steam Giant.........................578(-122)

    Gyrocopter.........................140(-4003) - Gyrocopter........................4316(-3385)

    Battering Ram.........................60(-98) - Battering Ram.........................360(-0)

    ............................................. - Doctor................................140(-0)

    Cook...................................25(-0) - Cook..................................290(-0)

    ............................................. - Mortar................................180(-0)

    ............................................. - Balloon-Bombardier...................80(-466)

    ............................................. - Spearman................................1(-0)

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    Generals.............................-54938.1 - Generals.............................-54812.3

    Offensive points....................137030.75 - Defence points......................137345.25

    Damage Received.......................2746905 - Damage Received.......................2740615

    Damage Percent............................50% - Damage Percent............................50%

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    The 48 hour trade ban would be good for now please.


    With pga now mocking the game the daily battles have troops numbers you wont find on any other server.

    I can post cr's if anyone is interested.


    Were talking 50,000 enemy troops a battle and if it wasent for the people that want to see this server survive helping out the few fighters taking on pga then it would have been done a year ago.


    Make those gen banks honest or we will see this for another 3 years.




    Deliverance
    Message Sumfin Simla [53:74] 26.07.2020 5:01:31
    2130


    Battle for ArTOn
    (26.07.2020 4:52:29)
    Deliverance[ABY] from Chicken Warrior, warrior 5, Markoni[ABY] from Chicken Warrior
    vs
    kourosh-pga[P G A] from PGA power, REVENGE007[P G A] from under world 10, ToTaL 10, Polis, warrior 7, S H A H I N, warrior 10, Shadow of Night[P G A] from Persi4n United, ToTaL 10, Boston, hamid_m1354, Witchking, ArTOn, warrior 11, s007[P G A] from s007 5, Joseph, warrior 11, S H A H I N

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Sulphur Carabineer....................686(-0) - Sulphur Carabineer...................1905(-0)
    Swordsman........................1607(-23241) - Swordsman........................3971(-22613)
    Hoplite..........................1246(-25845) - Hoplite...........................178(-19788)
    Steam Giant.........................706(-750) - Steam Giant.......................1057(-3439)
    Gyrocopter.........................190(-6716) - Gyrocopter........................1218(-5234)
    ............................................. - Balloon-Bombardier...................36(-985)
    Battering Ram..........................60(-8) - Battering Ram.........................292(-0)
    Mortar...............................12(-132) - Mortar................................474(-0)
    Doctor.................................20(-0) - Doctor.................................60(-0)
    Cook...................................75(-0) - Cook..................................190(-0)
    ............................................. - .............................................
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Generals.............................-89639.4 - Generals.............................-94958.6
    Offensive points.....................237396.5 - Defence points.......................224098.5
    Damage Received.......................4481970 - Damage Received.......................4747930
    Damage Percent............................48% - Damage Percent......................

    Quote from Sampisa

    Let me recap, please.

    This is a 12-years old server, obviously after so many time there are *really* strong players who built their strength thanks to a constant and continuous playing. Some of you are sure that it happened in an illegal way, in particular vs. a group of players, and I saw really angry words, I noticed frustration and great regret. Someone told that it is due to a "previous" habit on older servers (now merged). Someone told that it is due to lack of "clear and simple" rules. Someone else instead that it's because of GOs that lack on Beta and don't do their work correctly. Finally, if I'm not wrong, it seems that, in your opinions, usage of VPN is what gave to such players the opportunity to grow, managing multiple accounts (too much) in a unfair way, correct? And finally, you all think that currently on Beta the game is unplayable because of... too strong (unfair) players, correct?




    you cant bang off a 1.4 million gen score without VPN and illegal multis in a few hours period.

    Sorry but I played this game with 3 accounts since it's inception after O game so I know whats possibly playing honestly and whats not.


    So looks like he will keep to plan,take out the server. This game was not meant to be played fighting off cheating multi accounters with 1.4 million gens.


    I dont care about piracy,just want to see the trade ban on gen banks coming out of v.mode for a quick blast of gens. This would be a good step to solving this problem once and for all.

    Meanwhile the gen score bar has been raised. Anyone who thinks this is just a good player then I have a bridge for sale. Unbelievable. Anyone who thinks this is normal then show me how by doing it yourself and get back to me on how it works out.


    Player: REVENGE007

    Alliance: P G A

    Points: 19,044,748

    Master builder: 14,561,259

    Scientists: 3,017,913

    Generals: 1,425,604

    Gold supply: 150,605,661

    Right now,every single island pga is attacking has every single farmer in v.mode. This is why this server loses so many people. It is unplayable unless you have dealt with these guys before. I would settle for a 24 hour ban on trades on gen banks coming out of v.mode only to sell these cheats a half a million gens.


    So easy to do and it would retain players who are leaving in droves right now because of this conflict.


    Crow

    Lets not mention the 250 million gold he just got.

    He is playing for only one reason and thats to take out as many players as he can and shut down this server. Thats very evident if you have been fighting him for years like some of us have.

    It'll take me a little while to post the last 24 hours of CRs or screenies

    Thats ok,it will show what beta is like when some want to take it down.

    6 hours will suffice,as you know Del it has been non stop for what? months?

    Years?

    I dont know how you do it myself.


    Best fighter on beta bar none.


    Without cheating and with help from honest players. #1 offence score.

    Untill the pga gen banks are brought under reign it's 24/7 fighting non stop day and night with unheard off gen scores and unlimited gens and gold.


    It never stops folks,This is like a few people who have dedicated everything they have to take down beta server and if it was not for Deliverance this server would have been over run by these few people 2 years ago in their war with Kings which pga lost. They lost because of del and now they want to take him down which will never happen.


    I'm sure he could post some cr's of the battles but I dont think a lot of people would be able to comprehend how long this struggle has gone on and I'm talking years.

    Years of non stop fighting except for a few weeks when pga signed peace treaties only to break them a few days later.


    Nice to be able to get a half million gens and gold in the blink of an eye.

    That's only for the cheating multi accounters and not us honest players.

    The fact this has gone on for so many years boggles the mind after hundreds of reports.

    At one time a lot of us fighting these cheaters wondered if they had someone as a GO on the inside because our reports were ignored for years and filling out a ticket as requested was a waste of time. I got insulted,told to get discord and talk to a GO from a GO and I wont mention any names.


    Anyways,lets get this trade ban going before these guys hit a million gens each and yes they have not stopped fighting.


    Before they kill this game like they intend to do.

    The issue with having just the notice of 24, 48, or what ever hours notice for going v mode is it still allows ship banks to be used. One account can give the notice and then buy ships right before it enters v mode. I also think that GF won't go for no trading allowed for x amount of hours after coming out of v mode. Players may have run to v mode to hide from enemies and when they come back they may need to buy generals to defend themselves legally. However building on the no trading allowed you could implement a rule of no selling generals for x amount of hours after coming out of v mode. Still allows players to enter and exit v mode at will and properly be able to buy resources to defend themselves as needed whenever needed. While this would still allow general banks to exist it makes them almost non usable and just for show thus helping return balance to the game for normal players who don't cheat.

    If your v.moding because a pga bully with half a million gens is taking over your island then the last thing you are gonna do is come out of v.mode and buy enough gens to counter because it's impossible anyways.

    Unless you have access to your own gold and gen banks it aint gonna happen period. You stand no chance as well as all your island mates.

    Gen banks.

    The 48 hour ban on trades could kick in if your gen is higher then a set number like say 50,000.

    Honest players like myself and others who have been fighting these guys for at least 8 or 10 years can build ships and troops very fast because we fight guys with half a million gens or more.

    We have dealt with it for many many years by building huge barracks and shipyards capable of making a lot of gens but only till the population or sulpher runs dry.

    Nothing more frustrating then bringing down a gen score of 800,000 in the course of a couple weeks only to see it go back to half a million in the blink of an eye.

    Many times I allmost gave up all my accounts as the game seemed unplayable and with a trade ban on v.moded gen banks I can honestly say they would not stand a chance as they rely on these banks(sometimes run by them and vpn) and we rely on alliance help to fight these bullies and thats the proper word for them.


    They add nothing to the game and have contributed to many people leaving including their own members when they would not allow these cheaters to use their towns. They have even told friendly farmers if they did not allow access to their towns they would turn them into farms and make them pay a tax to not be pillaged.


    Deliverance can confirm this as I shared the circ with him.


    Anyways good to see some go's are at least noticing this is a problem now and maybe we can find a mutual agreement to stopping these gen banks that add ZERO value to the game and contribute to it's demise including paying customers and yes,lots of people use ambro.

    As owner of my own company I know that the people paying the bills are to be listened to when they have a problem be it right or wrong. If I ever told any of the people I contract for that they were trolls I would be out of business.


    My 2 cents.lets fix this.


    Crow,zig

    I like that idea of no trades after coming out of v mode for 24hrs.

    It would end all the illegal multi account cheating in a day. Then they would have to fight honestly like some of us had the last 10 plus years that have 10 level 40 barracks in each town on each account because of them.

    They could still cheat and pad those banks but trust me we know where they are and they are watched.

    I dont think a "ticket" will get this in motion either so maybe we should do a vote on it like years ago and hopefully it's not ignored again.

    As for the Iranian fighters being good,maybe the honest ones but the worst offenders running around with half a million gen scores have bean beaten into v.mode by Del and a handfull of other good fighters including moi every single time.


    We can deal with them in thousand round battles but thats when they go after the farmers and new players and 5 guys with half a milion gens and unlimited gold that have multiple people playing the same acct. 24 hours a day 7 days a week are too much. Nothing worse then having to tell your alliance members if pga attacks to go v.mode because theres nothing the fighters can or will do when drawn into a battle of attrition that could take a week.


    As for the vpn gen banks...easy peasy fix. Make it so they can not come out of v.mode and do a troop or ship trade for 24 hours and problem solved.

    it's really that simple as some gen banks will run an upkeep per hour in the millions and it gives us fighters a chance to engage the gen bank in battle because we do know who they are.


    Crow/Zig

    Sampisa. Well someone took me seriously as one offender is now banned at the moment and another halved his gen score.


    i have seen copies of tickets sent to you folks on this matter from the one person who fights these guys all the time. it's very well known on beta server that illegal multis have been at play for years.


    I do report every half million jump in gens or 500 million in gold. hundreds and hundreds of times.Check the trades I say,same peoples only interaction is with these illegal multis. As for VPN, if thats ok with gameforge then I would use it too but thats illegal.


    So thanks to who ever did notice and do something.

    Being called a troll by some members of staff makes me wonder if they treat all paying customers like this that just want to see the game played fairly and post a serious topic about it.