I don't know how these new upgrades work, and how are they impacting the offensive and defensive power of the units, but here is a report of a battle before the update and after the update:
Before the update: I lost 3 hoplings.
After the update: I lost just 1 hopling.
Same conditions, same city.
I wasn't talking about the time, I was talking about resources.
In current form, we will have to spend 100x (at least) gold and crystal, just to get to the same level we are currently, with that "+3", on normal servers.
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Can someone explain what this x20 is?
In 12version of the game for example oplites have
Hit points :56
Armour:1
Damage :18
When units in workshop upgraded armour increased by 1 for every upgrade and goes to 1+3=4 maximum(3 level upgrades available) and damage increased by 1 for every upgrade and goes to 18+3=21 maximum.
In 13 version these numbers are starting increased *20
Hit points :1120
Armour:20Damage :360
When units in workshop upgraded armour and damage increased by 1 for every upgrade and propably there is no limit cause as it said "Unit improvement levels in the Workshop are no longer limited".
In short, they changed the upgrade ratios so that each upgrade has a smaller impact.
Smaller impact???
Have you seen the costs???? You pay 100x more to get what we are having right now, on normal servers!!!
With respect to "1)": I don't even understand why you play Ikariam???
There's a game called FarmVille, go play that, it offers you everything you demanded here!!!
Pillaging can be easily manipulated by using alts. one can create farm accounts to pillage himslef
I understand your concern here, but you want to kill the entire game just for this?
Basically, you are proposing that a player should destroy his own resources (by training the army) just for the sake of destroying other player's resources? This is insane. It won't make any point in having the army, everyone would just farm resources and nobody will ever train troops.
Even big wars are started from the desire of pillage, not from the desire of just having a fight.
With respect to "1)": I don't even understand why you play Ikariam???
There's a game called FarmVille, go play that, it offers you everything you demanded here!!!
Before I start, please do NOT move my thread again into "Recruited less troops as requested", because this is NOT the same issue.
I play on server RO Lips.
The issue is that we cannot train troops, where the required number of citizens for that specific type unit is greater than 1.
The issue comes from the fact that, on that server, the number of required citizens for terrestrial army is less than on a normal server.
For example, in order to train 1 Steam Giant we only need 1 citizen instead of 2.
Next, in my screenshots, you can see that even I have 79 spare citizens in my town, I cannot train 50 Steam Giants, which only require 50 citizens:
Without a server and full screenshot of visible town and available citizens, it's hard to tell anything here.
Someone moved my post!!!
In my original post, I filled the server name, which was: Lips
I don't know why he decided that it was the same issue as the one in here, but is NOT!
Hi,
I don't know why you moved my post here.
It is NOT the same problem.
On my case, the troops are not queued in small amounts, they don't start training at all!!!
Hi,
I am on a special server where the number of required citizens to train troops is smaller then the normal one.
For example, a Steam Giant only require 1 citizen instead of 2.
Now, when I try to train some troops, even though I have the required number of citizens, I cannot do the training, because I get an error saying that I do not have enough citizens, even though I have.
Attached, there are images with available citizens and required citizens to train 70 SGs.
And, of course, the image with that red message is the error.
Hi,
I don't see an issue with any of your points, there.
Several years ago, when I saw that multi-accounting is legal, and many are doing it, I said: OK, I'll make a few more accounts on different servers, make them fat, then graveyard them and bring them to my server: all legal, with IP sharing, no contact. Then, I just started collecting woods from islands and donate with the secondary accounts.
Now, since I have multiple accounts, what is stopping me to also gather piracy points and help a member of my alliance, not just with the main account, but with all of them?
The problem you are pointing here is not with the multies involved in piracy (like explained above), rather with the players having TONS of multies and controlling them through VPNs and basically doing all of this for himself. This is the problem.
Yes, that is, for sure.
Damn it, forget about this (and delete this thread, pls).
Apparently, I hit the other bug where less troops are being trained, and this is why it took me only 15k of Suhphur (and I thought it was a reduction bonus :D)
Hi,
When recruiting troops on a server where the costs are reduced by the World Bonus, I can't recruit troops even though I have enough resources for them with the -25% World Bonus, because I don't have the full amount.
For example, when training 30 rocket ships, I need 15k of Sulphur, but the displayed needed amount is 18k.
If I have above 18k, I can train them and only 15k of my Sulphur will be spent.
But, if I have below 18k and above 15k I just can't train them.
Attached, a screenshot.
L.E.
Apparently, when training in another town, it took me full 18k of Sulphur for them, so I don't know where that bonus (from 18k to 15k) on other towns is coming from...
I asked that because, in my case, I have the barracks at level 42 in 14 cities. And it takes 33s to produce 1 phalanx and 22s for 1 swordsman.
This means that, during a round of 15 minutes (900s), I can produce a total of 229 troops (phalanxes combined with swords).
If I remember correctly, there are much more casualties in the first line, during a round. And I didn't even take into consideration the air loss.
Of course, if you have a large enough army, it will allow you stay in the fight and resupply, but the resupply production won't be even close to the number of casualties. So, sooner or later you will fall behind with troops, unless get help from alliance, or buy troops.
PS If you're a ambrosia user, even if you're a "builder" you went to 2 just because you could convert with premium trader and 50/50/10 is better than 35/35
Yep. You got me 
Although, I like more the fights than just monotonic building. If the time will allow, I will prefer fights over building, but I like to have a strong income, so I can produce big armies for a long duration of time.
The reasons I chose type 2 server is:
1. Because even a figher type server, from time to time will just get tired of fights and will settle down for a period (and during this period I will just enjoy the huge income and use ambro for buildings)
2. I enjoy fights.
Some players can produce more units for 15 min than it dies in one round...
Duude, are you sure?
What are your barracks level (for instance, for a ground battle) and the number of cities that can produce troops?
You guys (who chose this type of server) wanted to build more, build faster.
Now, you are complaining about armies.
Stop complaining and go back to building.
You can't stack Pan with other Gods. You get more marble and wine, on that islands, but not more wood.
If you also have Pan activated and want more wood, you will have to assign it to other islands.
Anyway, everyone does its way, but for myself just Pan on every town seems the best option for resources income.
Wait... what??? WHY would you activate all gods at once???
Each god, gives a different bonus effect - One for Wood, One for Wine, then One for Marble, Crystal, Sulfur, Gold, etc. ...
So, if you want more of each, then you have to have each activated.
I know that, but why activating them all, and consume 600 favor, when you can just activate Pan and you get its benefit on ALL islands with just 100 favor?
Anyway, wood is the most demanding resource.
I have all gods active so I need 600 grace every 3 days and some more.Quite difficult.Thanks all guys for your time to answer.
Wait... what??? WHY would you activate all gods at once???
