As a classic server player, i checked the new layout in the last days and where i should go when the merge happens regarding resources - miracles. What i hope is there will still be a server out of the 2 (or 4) which can keep the old layout so i could go there and keep the same coordinates as i have now.
Please keep or create a classic server option from those 2 or 4 servers - with the old layout and no server bonuses
0 interest from admins to show up here and take the feedback
only on discord i can interact with lagu who tells people to quit if they don't like it or that merges happen either if people like it or not - tells enough about the competence of the team - maybe as an admin you could reach the ears of the people who get our money and tell them what we want
"what we want" - yea, will start again the topic of "you are the loud minority" or "do you have any statistics" or "if thousands of people don't say anything then they like the idea" - the pure lack of competence of your team allows me to say "what we want" based on the feedback i saw on discord, on chats in game, on this forum - how can an admin be so clueless to dare to say "show me some statistics to prove people are unhappy with this" - do you also stop people on the street to prove you they didn't stole your wallet?
lagu says the merge had feedback - where exactly is a mistery
the whole idea of this merge lacks any common sense, i really can't understand why this has to be written:
- merging 160 days servers with 16years old servers... jesus christ there are games where temporary servers take longer than that - and you keep opening new servers just to spit in our faces.
- not making an existing server be the target server just to reset all work done by deleted accounts, and also the graveyard "feature" which you lacked any brain in solving the issue
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check the discord and see how many dislike it.
also you can show statistics about how many asked for this merge if you want to point fingers, it goes both ways
and also maybe the first 4 pages of this post in case you missed them
you always have nothing of value to say draxo
There are some issues with this justification.
First of all, if we bring up some dislike reactions on discord (as you posted there) - with that logic, the newest community server is more disliked than the merge.
This would not strengthen your point.
Secondly, we do have to consider the loud minority.
People that are content don't rush out the woods to say it, while unhappy portion certainly does.
Last but not least, it is not incorrect to say that the playerbase interacting with the forum or the discord is very much the minority.
No things said there, positive or negative, can be taken as the "voice of the people".
so if the new servers are more disliked than the merge then the merge must be very well looked after because the people only sent 1/3 of the reaction compared to a new server even tho in both cases they are looked with disgust; it does strenghten my point for being the only statistics we have; create a poll on all live servers if you want to see more concrete evidence, but of course gf doesn't care about player's opinions
secondly, why do you call it the loud minority? because most player base doesn't use discord and forum?
you always have nothing of value to say draxo
I love you too, mate!
Ok, you got me - I checked this thread and guess what I saw: probably 10 unique accounts complaining about the merge as such. From what I remember when checked the game last time we have a 'bit' more players. Calling 10 or 15 players as a majority of a game with a base of thousands of players would be a bit silly, wouldn't it?
very silly, i can only think of a thing sillier, like not creating a poll to actually see the real feedback, how about do that ?
you can always pull out the "we listened to our players" and cancel this mess and unwanted merge, to make people blush at seeing that ikariam cares for their opinion
You have exact statistics about how many players do not want the merge? Or you base it only on your and some other personal opinion?
check the discord and see how many dislike it.
also you can show statistics about how many asked for this merge if you want to point fingers, it goes both ways
and also maybe the first 4 pages of this post in case you missed them
you always have nothing of value to say draxo
and to also twist some of your words against you: maybe i could have had some statistics if the team created some poll about asking if we want this merge
Merging 5 months old servers with older servers speaks volumes about the money grab those servers are and how little gameforge cares about them, you open them for the money and have 0 purpose for them; one of the greediest game companies i have ever seen. Also a wild guess after the merge: you will still open a new server every month.
You allowed people to let their multis to go to the graveyard to spam regaining donation wood and you made that seem like a "feature" because of course you were not capable to fix anything, and now you deny everyone's chance to keep the progress of that "feature" by creating a new server instead of merging with the existing ones as it happened in the past. That was a very big and unfair advantage, but you allowed it and is your fault for not taking measures timely.
Why exactly you give server bonuses if i come from a server that had none before, if i wanted a faster pace i would have joined the new servers. Why deny my progression by changing the pace of old servers? of course, as time goes by there should be means of faster ways of progression, but this is pure laziness to just give older servers a server boost.
For me this merge is pure garbage and gameforge gives 0 lucks about its player base, they just want to reduce costs after creating ghost servers, that were never ment to develop, just to be milked. I don't even want the server boost, i want to remain on my classic server.
will be a new server instead of merging with an existing one, for example alpha ?
i don't think production should be adjusted, the cost for high lvl buildings should be
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Another thing would be to make Ikariam premium view free under some sort, at least once a week for a day, so players can actually follow what is going on with 20 freaking cities
You have option to take premium for one day by doing daily missions
Yeah possible workaround BUT:
It deletes any accumulated points so in the end I could never make 1000 points without purposely creating things which have to be destroyed later..
- The game should NOT force me to make troops just for the points.
- The game should NOT force me to attack other players AND barbarians
- The game should NOT force me to play this Pirate game, it is just not for me, never played it, never will.
- The game should NOT force me to trade when I don't want to just for points
- Can't research. Nothing left there. Won't make ships or troops just to disband them afterwards.
- Achievements? seriously?
- Ambrosia? When was the last time GF gave away ambrosia to dedicated and loyal players? Xmas 2015?
The Only doable missions are - donation, Conduct capture runs (sigh), and Screen the cultural feature in the Cinetheatre.
If the game was not deleting my points, I'd have accumulated for premium day.
I guess I have to do shenanigans just to pull the rabbit out of the hole.
Time remaining: 2D 08h
Favour: 300
- Tasks
- Rewards
Tasks completed today: 1 / 13
you talk about 20 cities but find it challanging to get 1000 favour in a week
like saying you can swim across an entire ocean, but a 100m pool it's too much
It seems that almost all of your have forgotten that in the version 3.X we already had building levels with absolutely impossible levels due to the storage limit. And we all survived and I don't recall such whining about it. In the end - nobody, literally nobody is asking you to build the max levels. Build and do whatever you are able to and enjoy the game.
So if something was unreachable before, now it's reasonable to make the same mistake again.. Cuz why would anyone want to learn from the mistakes of the past.
So far all you've bring to this topic was to say we are whining and should accept whatever we're given.
You realize that probably 0.x% of all players are posting here, right? And a good part of the rest do not do it because it might be ok for them?
Lovely asumption, " if the child doesn't cry then he's fine". If a good part is not posting you can't say if they agree or not, most either haven't even heard of this update or simply don't care.
Back to the topic,
You don't NEED to max out every building to be successful in this game. You didn't need to max out every building before this update; you certainly don't need to max out every building after this update. Be strategic in what you upgrade. Be strategic in when you upgrade. Accept that you can't upgrade everything to the maximum level in every town. It's okay (and the smart players won't even try).
Before this update i knew i'll never reach max score and it also wasn't my intension, but at least i had a good understanding about each building if i wanted to max it out. It was easier to say " if i want those 5buildings max lvl in all cities it will take me a year". Now.. " if i want my warehouse max lvl i'll have to pass this quest to my son".
Also, about production buildings, even if the cost was a fraction of what it is, the reason behind upgrading it further will be purely for score, cuz expecting to get back what you invested in upgrading it won't happen in many years. So, it's pointless, even if it was reachable, why even bother if it gives you no improvement?
The port that can load 300k resources per minute, how exactly it impacts the game if i only have ships for 100k.. I know this has been addressed many times in this topic, but with reasons, if devs didn't think about that part yet why even announce incresing the port cap, it's like " we are limited by the technology of our time"
I know i'm repeating myself, but all i want is things that are reachable, not easier than before. I want to look at 1 building and say " i'm finished with this, there's nothing after this", not " i'm finished with this, it's not done, but trying to go further takes an unreasonable amount of time, resorces and it does nothing else than increase my total score"
My opinion from a few pages ago remains ( but a bit corrected) : no building should take more than 20-30days to complete, max storage shouldn't be altered in warehouse and deposit from lv 1-40, after that the formula could change (i say this to not change what people had to go through before vs what would be easier now for new players), max storage 20M or 40M with premium and also this should be maximum required for any building.
Even what i'm saying it's a lot for many ( including me) but at least it's more sensitive than what we're seeing so far.
This update brings 0 content to the table ( except more colonies), and as some forum adminstrators and other ranks are trying to push a " accept what you get, at least they did something" this is a very bad habit, let people give their feedback, and report the same issue that was addressed before to see the magnitude of the issue.
As an ending, i hardly believe if you create an ingame poll to see wether people would like to see this update on their server or leave things as they were, mostly will chose the second statement.
Create new content, cancel this update!
Draxo, to check all your comments
"For all whiners about time and resources - there are Premium options for that one" - yes i'll spend a few million $ to be able to buy 2billion resources so my warehouse will be 1level higher
"So yes, it is doable" - can't wait for your grand-grand-grand children to validate this affirmation
"Nobody told and promised that they should be doable in a few years " - true, because the game can only get more exciting when you know you'll be nowhere close to max score after 20years....; "and without ambrosia" - and we should all start buying resources to have a peak at the game?
"And yes, Premium features means if gives some benefits. Here they are." - in the current situation you are addressing a very very low portion of players if you expect every building should be finished with ambrosia -so far it's been about doubling storage in this case, now it's about buying resources?
I truly can't understand how the devs (or dev probably ) came up with such disgusting numbers.
After the announcement i expected buildings will cost 20mil tops... just to see today 2.xxx.xxx.xxx and 6y building time, it really is depressing to see such ignorance and 0 interes in how the game advanced so far.
"you are not forced to build anything to max lvl" - well yes, but that's the goal for many players... to do everything possible. Why are you creating things that are unreachable? What will be the joy to start the construction of a building and see it finished after a yers, or 2 or... 6...?
I truly hope this is a late April Fools joke, i had a bad taste after 5sec from opening the in-game "help".
Just look at those who moved all of their cities on all resources to build all production buildings, doubling their storage capacity for years to be able to reach max score, and then see how nothing of this has any value after increasing so much the storage capacity. The storage should have been left the same to not make their work completely meaningless.
My opinion is that no building should take more than 20days to be finished, storage should not exceed 20M resources and also no building should cost more than 20M of one resource
