Posts by panos78

For today's anagram, should we use all the 25 letters or just some of them?

In 2 greek servers I play the name of the capitcal is cut

Gods' Shrine too

I was wondering something and I think asking it here I will solve it.

In order to research The Seat of the Gods a Level 5 Town Hall is required.

This request for the Town Hall has to be in the city where the Gods' Shrine will be build or you should just have one townhall in any city of your empire?

Σύμφωνα με τα ids των αποστολών, απομένουν 3 που πρέπει να ανακαληφθούν.

Περιττό να πω ότι η περιγραφή πρέπει να ξαναγραφτεί στα ελληνικά.

According to the ids of the tasks, there should be 3 more to be discovered.

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Στην σχετική ενότητα μία ερώτηση απορία

το: "Άνοιξε τα Υπάρχοντά σου"

ξέρει κάποιος πως το αποκτούμε από τις καθημερινές αποστολές ?

ευχαριστώ!

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If you put them on the wiki I'll see them haha.

The PF didn't have a formula on the wiki, but I'm guessing a single formula won't work for that one because there's an odd jump from lvl 10 to 11. And then again from 15 to 16, and 20 to 21, so every 5th level there's a bigger jump, except from 5 to 6.

1. 40

2. 414

3. 817

4. 1,253

5. 1,721

6. 2,228

7. 2,779

8. 3,370

9. 4,010

10. 4,702

11. 8,989

12. 10,487

13. 12,150

14. 13,997

15. 16,045

16. 30,528

17. 35,449

18. 41,058

19. 47,455

20. 54,745

21. 76,684

22. 88,880

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The best practice is to publish something when it is completed.

So on the wiki, I try to publish what is ready to be published.

Because of this, if you want to have information before it is published, we should exchange info.

I have created a new channel on the Discord server of the wiki:

https://discord.gg/2S7epZW3

regarding the formulas of the game.

There we can exchange information.

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For reduction buildings, I have already collected them.

So I can stop doing those lol? I got up to level 15 on all of them on an alt account. I was also doing hideouts and pirate fortress. I don't remember if the hideout even changed, but I know the pirate fortress was never available. And I only have the first 3 levels of the dockyard.

I can give them to you if you want.

For hideout, I have already collected them too. The levels went from 32 to 60.

The Pirate fortress has not changed with last update.

For Dockyard, I have the first three levels too.

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Reignman If you want we can exchange information.

Yeah I'll share whatever information I dig up. Unfortunately I already finished upgrading all 5 reduction buildings to level 50 in my new town before I knew the information was needed. It's too bad the test server couldn't be used for something like this, but over there you have the same slow building pace. It would be nice if it had some tools to let testers instantly finish buildings/troops, and instantly add whatever resources you needed to actually test things without having to wait 5 years. Where's the ikariam sandbox server haha?

For reduction buildings, I have already collected them.

The existence of the fraction A/B is actually one coefficient but we kept it because this way we can have more accuracy.

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do we have a general equation form?

do we have the time for every building, or at least, some of them?

if so, maybe we can do some kind of regression with minimum root square, but the general equation form is important, otherwise, the shape of the curve shall be similar, yet not as exact as the general form, for instance, looks like an exponential form, but without knowing this, at max, we could guess a polynomial regression.

so, give me the general form, and will think about how to make the regression and post it here, i am an engineering student in vacation

Yes, there is a general equation form but, for example, "Pirate Fortress" does not follow it.

At least, I haven't managed to figure out its coefficients.

Before the last updates, when most buildings had a hardcap level 32, we had the coefficients that calculate the durations.

For the new levels, I am working on it by collecting the exact durations for each level.

The page on the wiki that has this information is: https://ikariam.fandom.com/wiki/Buildings/Construction_Time

My opinion is that both durations and amounts of resources are important.

Reduction buildings affect the required resources for all buildings up to 50%.

So far, I have updated the reduction on buildings on the Greek wiki, so if you don't mind about the language, you can find what you are looking for there.

Soon, I will do the same on the English wiki, but not yet.

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Well that's unfortunate. Has anyone thought to ask them xD? Should I fill out a ticket or do they have an email address somewhere?

Draxo confirms with his answer, the attempts I made when I asked for them and I found a wall.

So, the only way to find the formula's coefficients is by collecting the exact durations in seconds for all levels.

The unfortunate thing is that I don't play with Ambrosia, so this whole attempt takes ages for me and tons of resources are required.

But as we all know, this game has taught us patience, all these years.

A few days ago, I managed to collect all the reduction duration for the sea chart archive as they are displayed for all types of ships.

I will try to find if there is a formula that generates them and I intend to publish it on the wiki when I find the time.

As I have said, so far I have completed the collection for all the reduction buildings (Carpenter, Winery, Architect's Office, Optician and Firework Test area) and the Hideout.

Reignman If you want we can exchange information.

The formulas that GF uses to define the durations are not publicly known.

For some buildings, I have managed to find the coefficients (example all the reduction buildings, Hideout)

Unfortunately, it requires a lot of time to collect the exact duration for each level.

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I am on the way to calculating these, but in order to do it, I must have the exact time (in seconds) for each new level.

Whoa, what a coincidence, it's Mr. Wiki himself xD. I was trying to message you on the wiki about it, but I couldn't find a reply button lol. Do you need the exact time for every level, or can you figure out the formula if you have a handful of levels? Because once I noticed the coefficients were outdated, I started jotting down the time of some of these levels as I upgraded my own buildings. I did that with inspect element to get the exact time "buildingcountdown.duration".

The optimum way is to have the durations in seconds for all the levels and then try to find the formula that produces them.

Most of the coefficients were calculated by another player (WarriorFR If I remember his name).

I have managed to find some of the latest coefficients myself.

The new levels use different coefficients.

I am on the way to calculating these, but in order to do it, I must have the exact time (in seconds) for each new level.

Until the end of this task for each building, the wiki will remain as it is.

In case someone has these coefficients, PM me to apply them in the wiki.

Σου απάντησα στο προηγούμενο θέμα.

Οι αλλαγές που έχουν γίνει δεν άλλαξαν κάτι σε δάση και ορυχεία.

Καλησπέρα.

Αυτά είναι τα διαθέσιμα πρωτογενή στοιχεία που βγάζουν τους παραπάνω πίνακες.

Αν κάποιος έχει κάτι περισσότερο συγκεντρωτικό ή πιο επίκαιρο, ας το υποβάλει.