Survey - What is your daily resource production / No premium features

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Do you overload your wineyards or just have good level on them? It usually isn't worth to overload the wineyard just to have more free citizens and earn more gold, as the gold you stop earning from overloading is greater than the one you get from the new citizens sustained with the wine you get from overloading. At least, that was the case before the new levels update, don't know if that still applies. Just dropping random thoughts

This is the maximum I can produce at the moment.

I only have 800 inhabitants in each vineyard - about 1300 wine per city.

Yesterday when I published this and did some calculations I came to the conclusion that, with the new version, I don't need 3 cities of wine

I'll move one to marble and my 14th will be sulfur (hephaestus) and be almost permanent miracle.

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Yesterday when I published this and did some calculations I came to the conclusion that, with the new version, I don't need 3 cities of wine

I'll move one to marble and my 14th will be sulfur (hephaestus) and be almost permanent miracle.

Ignoring the miracle, I would choose the island resource with the biggest capacity. WIne, Marble, Crystal or Sulphur; its all the same when you can use the premium trader.

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Yesterday when I published this and did some calculations I came to the conclusion that, with the new version, I don't need 3 cities of wine

I'll move one to marble and my 14th will be sulfur (hephaestus) and be almost permanent miracle.

Ignoring the miracle, I would choose the island resource with the biggest capacity. WIne, Marble, Crystal or Sulphur; its all the same when you can use the premium trader.

But wiht Hades you don´t need any premium trader... Hades is a resource trader between wood and sulfur marble.

I don't plan to invest money in the game. All existing in-game alternatives are the ones I chose to use.

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Hades is a resource trader between wood and sulfur marble

If you use submarines, you can convert crystal to marble too.

Hades is a nice option if you have a friendly, non allied neighbour to send units your way. It is good to get extra marble, but that is only a small fraction of what I need for the GR and Palace expansions. It is also less common to find high level island resources on a Hades island, so if you are planting a new colony, that may be a factor.

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Hades is a resource trader between wood and sulfur marble

If you use submarines, you can convert crystal to marble too.

Hades is a nice option if you have a friendly, non allied neighbour to send units your way. It is good to get extra marble, but that is only a small fraction of what I need for the GR and Palace expansions. It is also less common to find high level island resources on a Hades island, so if you are planting a new colony, that may be a factor.

i found a Hades island with quarry 1 level up than my Poseidon quarry island.

And because I produce 6000 sulphur/h, Hades convert more marble than produce from the quarries.

If I dedicate myself 24/7 on Hades conversion I can convert to about 600k marble every 4 days witch is about the same marble prodution I have with 5 marble cities.

If my multi accounts can donate to my island to increase the production of my main account, then I'm not sure why using Hades by not related accounts should be a pushing.

In the end also these units do require resources, gold and citizens to be created and then sent out, so it's not like a pure pushing like just sending ships full of resources, right?

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If my multi accounts can donate to my island to increase the production of my main account, then I'm not sure why using Hades by not related accounts should be a pushing.

In the end also these units do require resources, gold and citizens to be created and then sent out, so it's not like a pure pushing like just sending ships full of resources, right?

its worse

it gives you more resources than you spend way more quickly

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Wait

This Hades strategy is 100% legit in terms of not considered pushing?

You even don't have to pretend, wait some time etc..., just spam units and send them to battle?

Moderators are doing nothing?

Why be considered pushing when I'm the one producing the troops to destroy, I'm the one trying to free my city occupied by another player completely independent of me and I always lose.

The only thing the other player loses is some gold for having the units parked there for 16 hours (duration of the miracle)

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Are there any rumors of upcoming server mergers?

All of the sudden I need free town relocation items

You can get them, just don't log in for like 45 days and the account will be deleted from the server and you will have free towns moves and you can move back to any server you want.

Quote from Ing

No way. It sounds good to be true.

It's not that good. 45 days is a month and a half, that's a lot of resources lost (or not gained). Your account will be inactive and exposed to pillaging during more than a month.

Maybe the best strategy for those 45 days is to idle all resource workers, spend or sell all resources left so nothing can be pillaged from your cities, and just farm gold (and research points) during that time.

The wine to sustain population is also another issue. For colonies with a wineyard, just leaving enough workers to sustain tabern consumption should be enough. For non-wineyard colonies, there is a choice between leaving enough wine to sustain tabern consumption during ~50 days with the risk of it being pillaged, or don't leave wine and accept the huge lose of population (and gold production).

But there is another issue outside of the game context, and is the removal of Ikariam time in your daily routine during a month and a half. The best option here (in my opinion) is to schedule the break during your holidays, so it's easy to re-add it to your routine again as you return to your usual habits. Otherwise, I think there is a risk you'll substitute the Ikariam time with something else and you'll forget about it, or maybe don't want to come back.

And this is my unrequested essay/opinion on the 45 days of break time to get free city and server moves hahaha.

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Also what happens with donations in that case?

I think it returns to you the same way it happens during a server merge, and it can be used on the new server's mines.

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Also what happens with donations in that case?

You will receive the wood as an item in the inventory, and you can use the wood again to donate to the mines on the new server you move(it could be the same server).

If I bought and used a premium spot town relocation, will that be refunded to me in graveyard or not?

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If I bought and used a premium spot town relocation, will that be refunded to me in graveyard or not?

Not if you have used it. The same goes for town relocations you may have purchased. If you have used them, you don't get them back.

There is a pretty complete guide to getting Grave yarded here.

And the next step:"Getting an account out of Asphodel" here.

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If I bought and used a premium spot town relocation, will that be refunded to me in graveyard or not?

If you have a city on a premium place when the account get deleted, I think you get one premium place move, because you get free moves for all your cities. You have 10 cities you get 10 moves, if one city is on a premium place you get 9 normal and 1 premium.

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If you have a city on a premium place when the account get deleted, I think you get one premium place move, because you get free moves for all your cities. You have 10 cities you get 10 moves, if one city is on a premium place you get 9 normal and 1 premium.

That sounds plausible. I was going off a remembered post by a mod that said premium features bought and used weren't refunded. But memory is fallible and my interpretation may have been mistaken too. Would be nice if we got an official opinion or link to an official posting.

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If I bought and used a premium spot town relocation, will that be refunded to me in graveyard or not?

If you have a city on a premium place when the account get deleted, I think you get one premium place move, because you get free moves for all your cities. You have 10 cities you get 10 moves, if one city is on a premium place you get 9 normal and 1 premium.

Thats what I was thinking, but wasnt sure either