Declaration of war between BSQ vs SF

Dear 14kk; dear opponents;

I just have seen the post one or two hours ago and I am thanking you for the reaction time test youre giving us. Lets see, if me and my comrades will fail or succeed it. We will see it in 3 weeks.

I just informed my comrades about this thread. I wish you and your mates fun and success.

For the calculus treaty, I asked my comrades if they want to accept the calculus treaty. My personal stance is in favour for it, but I gave my comrades a few hours to react. Its not a formal referendum, but rather a quick lookout for internal opinions. I will decide when I woke up. If you find armies of us in the meanwhile (well, our team was on zero GP right now), you can upload it and it would be added on top of the calculation tool treaty.

I will get an army within the next 2 days. For my comrades, I cant promise. I am excited how those who are active right now decide.

Yours, Warrior/Kater

Cheat from BSQ side:

BSQ started to send either multies or friends to do frontline defense for us, so they can kill our safe units. We will NOT recognize the 930 GP destroyed by this report, and we will count them out of the overall score.

If BSQ keeps trying to cheat this way, then we will terminate the gauntled war and declare victory ourselves. Like in real life sports, if people do doping and get caught, they get disqualified in football, tour de france, olympics etc.. We would be aware that BSQ wouldnt recognize it if we declared victory if this happens again. But we simply wouldnt care.

Be it how it is. These 930 points from Hannibals mortars arent being accepted by us. We demand proper warfare and not cheating general points. Here, the proof of BSQ cheating:

P.S.: We got enough loot reports to box stuff out tho. Sad thing is, this kind of stunts dont even help you enough.

Quote from Der Kater

Cheat from BSQ side:

BSQ started to send either multies or friends to do frontline defense for us, so they can kill our safe units. We will NOT recognize the 930 GP destroyed by this report, and we will count them out of the overall score.

If BSQ keeps trying to cheat this way, then we will terminate the gauntled war and declare victory ourselves. Like in real life sports, if people do doping and get caught, they get disqualified in football, tour de france, olympics etc.. We would be aware that BSQ wouldnt recognize it if we declared victory if this happens again. But we simply wouldnt care.

Be it how it is. These 930 points from Hannibals mortars arent being accepted by us. We demand proper warfare and not cheating general points. Here, the proof of BSQ cheating:

Display More

Hi. I once thought we shared similar views on the game. And it's unpleasant to hear you say such things. It's hypocritical to call this "cheat code," even though you leave gyrocopters and spears, or naval rams and aircraft carriers in every city.

You hide vulnerable units separately from your army. You have an infinite army and gold bank, so much so that you simply don't need to keep an army at home. SF is "cheat code."

The BSQ alliance will use every opportunity to destroy SF troops.

You created your own branch with your own rules and waged a unilateral war. This is our branch. Is it stated somewhere in the rules that this is unacceptable? No.

Quote from Der Kater

Cheat from BSQ side:

BSQ started to send either multies or friends to do frontline defense for us, so they can kill our safe units. We will NOT recognize the 930 GP destroyed by this report, and we will count them out of the overall score.

If BSQ keeps trying to cheat this way, then we will terminate the gauntled war and declare victory ourselves. Like in real life sports, if people do doping and get caught, they get disqualified in football, tour de france, olympics etc.. We would be aware that BSQ wouldnt recognize it if we declared victory if this happens again. But we simply wouldnt care.

Be it how it is. These 930 points from Hannibals mortars arent being accepted by us. We demand proper warfare and not cheating general points. Here, the proof of BSQ cheating:

Display More

Quote from Der Kater

P.S.: We got enough loot reports to box stuff out tho. Sad thing is, this kind of stunts dont even help you enough.

Better answer why out of 24 people, only 2 have generals' points? You're not a team, but two friends.

What is the problem if it was a war against me? Not a problem to me

I will fight the whole of BSQ, could be 1 on behalf of 18.
I have pillaged and i have killed gens
(For context: Its not even that i'm a immense ambro account that can carry the war, im a f2p account 3.5x smaller than BSQ average)

But it stops being any guild war, the moment you start actively bringing outside armies to turn the tides of battle. No ifs, no buts.



(I dont know who you are in game 14kk, but assuming you didnt know/meant for the cheating i will provide further context for clarity:
The spear wasnt always there, he was sent only after it was known i had unreachable mortars there: https://ikalogs.ru/report/f1754720cf9411f0aac2a8a1598b272a/
With the sole impact of allowing this battle to take my mortars: https://ikalogs.ru/report/26325910cf8411f0aac2a8a1598b272a/
A random spear comes from russian named town, during the war against a russian accs alliance, after the attacker knew there was unreachable mortars, allowing said attacker to attack again after scattering and kill the mortars? One might claim its a coincidence, the same way i could claim all points i did are worth 1 billion each, both, tho, are bs claims)

(waiting for mods)

Placing 2 multies on my island with garrison right and attacking then coming back here and talking about "cheating".

U really have 0 dignity

(im not aware how modding works here, so i'll just repost this without the links)

What is the problem if it was a war against me? Not a problem to me

I will fight the whole of BSQ, could be 1 on behalf of 24 for all i care.
I have pillaged and i have killed gens, no problem
(For context: Its not even that i'm a immense ambro account that can carry the war, im a f2p account 3.5x smaller than BSQ average)

But it stops being any guild war, the moment you start actively bringing outside armies to turn the tides of battle. No ifs, no buts.

Yeah, thats the part i refered with "links" that isnt going through.

I disagree with "attract" tho, being much more of a "send"

"I dont know who you are in game 14kk, but assuming you didnt know/meant for the cheating i will provide further context for clarity:

The spear wasnt always there, he was sent only after it was known i had unreachable mortars there: (l ink of first battle when they attacked, hit nothing because there was no frontline and scattered my mortars)

With the sole impact of allowing this battle to take my mortars: (l ink of the battle when the same person attacked again after my mortars regrouped, now with a random spear causing the units not to scatter and be killed )

A random spear comes (for context: from russian named town, during the war against a guild to my knowledge made all by russian) after the attacker knew there were unreachable mortars, allowing said attacker to attack again after scattering and kill the mortars? One might claim its a coincidence, the same way i could claim all points i did are worth 1 billion each, both, tho, are bs claims)"

- (For further context, this account that sent the spear has since beamed together with 2 BSQ accounts doing an attack in my island)

If you're someone in game i can dm you the ikalogs links i had to remove from text above

(i have since that found troops from out-of-guild players defending towns from BSQ in BSQ's advantage (90 hops reinforcing defending a BSQ town with 1 hop )

Quote from -Hannibal-

Yeah, thats the part i refered with "links" that isnt going through.

I disagree with "attract" tho, being much more of a "send"

"I dont know who you are in game 14kk, but assuming you didnt know/meant for the cheating i will provide further context for clarity:

The spear wasnt always there, he was sent only after it was known i had unreachable mortars there: (l ink of first battle when they attacked, hit nothing because there was no frontline and scattered my mortars)

With the sole impact of allowing this battle to take my mortars: (l ink of the battle when the same person attacked again after my mortars regrouped, now with a random spear causing the units not to scatter and be killed )

A random spear comes (for context: from russian named town, during the war against a guild to my knowledge made all by russian) after the attacker knew there were unreachable mortars, allowing said attacker to attack again after scattering and kill the mortars? One might claim its a coincidence, the same way i could claim all points i did are worth 1 billion each, both, tho, are bs claims)"

- (For further context, this account that sent the spear has since beamed together with 2 BSQ accounts doing an attack in my island)

If you're someone in game i can dm you the ikalogs links i had to remove from text above

(i have since that found troops from out-of-guild players defending towns from BSQ in BSQ's advantage (90 hops reinforcing defending a BSQ town with 1 hop )

Display More

1 hoplite who changed the war

Let's talk about how The Warrior, with his foot and army, landed on the island at 39:17. And when he couldn't fly back with his city, two external players built their own new tier 1 cities. After that, The Warrior captured the city with his army and navy. The city was razed, and his army left for home without a long wait. We call this "evacuation." But if you're talking about attracting external players on our side, don't forget to talk about attracting players on yours.

Quote from Mickey Mouse

Better answer why out of 24 people, only 2 have generals' points? You're not a team, but two friends.

We are currently 3 people going after BSQ. Yes, our active personnel is currently lower than in any other conflict. This is okay for us, since multiple comrades have their pre-xmas celebrations etc. in western culture. So we try what is possible with our time budget. I admit, that its much more difficult than in the last war, when we chose the date - but hey, thats the game. We cant always chose the date, so, when there is a war, we have to accept it and to watch out for how we do.

Quote from Spaghetti

Placing 2 multies on my island with garrison right and attacking then coming back here and talking about "cheating".

U really have 0 dignity

I suggest you to buy a new crystal ball, because the old one doesnt predict the truth any longer. So your astrology doesnt work on this matter, sadly.

Quote from 14kk

vacation mode

One day, where I got time to attack, I put 2 enemy people with 275k GP combined into Vmod. This was yesterday. I am not complaining about this, because this is a legitimate activity. However, dont blame, when our people go Vmod before there have been any attacks upon them at all, because they have no time. There is a difference in going into Vmod without being attacked - and going into Vmod whilst having cities and harbours burning. One is saving because of no time. The other is fleeing because they lost a battle.

As you can see on my screenshots, Serij and John of BSQ entered Vmod the exact moment they have been under fire.

Again, we dont complain, if BSQ people are being FORCED into Vmod during an ongoing fight/attack, but then dont be hypocrite and blame our comrades to go into Vmod without being attacked in the same moment.

For example

Well. Seems like you got 2 and we got 2. Things like this happen on both sides.

The amount of cope u can reproduce is on another level