Mafia and Stars VS USA and the need to win the LOST wars

It seems that after Mafia ran from the lost wars they started, instead of following them they went to the build server to play warrior and are now trying to "win" the lost wars against a new alliance that had nothing to do with it. After being run off multiple times they have escalated to a 2v1 war against an alliance a fraction of their size and hide behind a defense pact with another huge alliance that will defend them if their offensive actions get to be too much for them.

Playing warrior on a build server and trying to claim to wage a war that doesn't exist to feel powerful seems to be the mode of operation of thegodfather and Mafia. After starting the war they blocked all diplomacy so it looks like another endless war until thegodfather feels properly worshiped.

He tried saying it was because he was hunting Gordos but he had attacked 3 members by then. He then ended with attacking everyone we love until we bow to him and apologize to his entire alliance for being on the wrong side of war lol

Most guys wouldn't be so petty as to try and force someone to say something they don't believe in order to feel powerful. It could be easy just to lie to him so he feels worshiped but I don't have a bit of boot licker in me.

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Hmm, normally when people want conflict they look down the list and never up, pick a nice small target and find any excuse to instigate. Generally harass until there is escalation

I genuinely love humbling bigger opponents but right now I’m king of asphodel and workshopless. One day

I remember having the number 3 account on Zeta server for a time. I hated it because I wouldn't attack anyone smaller than me. Just no competition in it. I'm not big on thinking its great to molest the young and weak.

Looks like thegodfather has his feelings hurt here and has to show the might of his true power.

I cannot imagine how he violates people in his personal life and tries to say, you were told all you have to do is speak one sentence and I will stop violating you.

Well, an honorable person would not have been violating me in the first place since nobody did anything to you, you just want to violate people and this is how you feel better about it.

I was being funny and mentioned personal. So here we have the honor of an apology where it is needed. Not the best character to be funny like that in this situation. I apologize.

Thegodfather, why will you start a war and block the diplomat just to tell people I refuse to negotiate? You have not only refused any negotiation, you have given an ultimatum to bow to you or suffer consequences. You even named one of your floaters that to fuel your will to seemingly rule the server here. Obey or suffer.

Thats not very diplomatic at all. Telling an alliance they will all be punished if we don't force someone to say something they don't believe is true is not very diplomatic. Dragging something up that doesn't have anything to do with any of us, including him since he never led anything and was only loyal to his oaths as those who found themselves bailing you out of this encounter, is not very diplomatic.

So, come on in here and have some negotiations, show your ability to be diplomatic. Lets see what you present.

He won't talk publicly but his response was that he will decide who he attacks and tell everyone they can trust that he will only attack who he wants. Not very diplomatic.

He says he is giving me the chance to "save my alliance" by choosing to only attack certain members. They act like their will to throw gold out of the window while we live our lives has been something other than them throwing gold out of the window while we live our lives.

There doesn't seem to be the ability to negotiate, only to find reasons to attack at will, whomever he pleases. I guess he sees it as disrespectful to be honest about it all and doesn't want me to be honest about any of it so, draw your own conclusions lol

Seems thegodfather is done trying to act like he wants to negotiate and blocked again. Too bad he is too scared to come here and talk about it.

Here is a message for him though.

Since you have no will to actually negotiate, I will say one more thing. I actually deal with daily death threats to stand up against genocide in the world. So when you claim to stand up for it but you act like those who just want any excuse they can to feel like they are hurting people, I am going to get pretty direct about it.

Since I have dealt with this since before running for Congress here in 2010 to stop these things, it gives me a disdain for people who act out those who are part of the problem. All honor has is to be direct and to the point and honor has no place to submit to what you have done. So your only negotiation is to leave us alone completely at this point or don't even disrespect us by acting like you can negotiate.

Harvid pretty much said he was a VRG player and knew I couldn't be trusted because on the last server I had helped some of VRG with attacking someone and was talking to a member who admitted he played an unstable character in the game and he went crazy making up a bunch of stuff to his alliance and they decided they could message my alliance to try and turn them against me. It seems VRG, even though the member admitted he did it because his character is unstable, still holds something against me.

thegodfather is just lying his butt off at this point. He is acting like our members don't have lives and they would live on the game if they weren't here trying to play powerful and make people bow to them. Originally TGF lied multiple times about his attacks and that is the only message I have in my archives. After multiple lies he settled on Gordos apologizing to him for the Lost wars, even though at first he wouldn't say why, I had to investigate myself through old friends in game.

Now he wants a free pass to attack our member and that is his version of peace. He says following Gordos and I is what is causing him to attack the newest and smallest members of the server and he thinks that one of our friends left because they are so powerful when it had nothing to do with them, only the members game.

Look, I take care of my elderly mother who almost died a few months ago so I don't mind watching you guys waste gold while I have a life. Our members have lives as well and went to the build server to retire, not dedicate ourselves to all the nonsense and lies.

You show well why the server hates you and they have barely experienced you.

You remind me of VRG trying to message people to create division in the group because we are all friends and our lives come before this. There isn't anything outside our group that would endanger that and you are just making a fool out of yourself to everyone like VRG did when they tried.