First Impressions of Navy and Land Battles

Your enemy has forge active??

I think it's the new normal.

Steam Rams:

- v12

HP 576

Armour 16+6+2=24

Damage (166+6)×120%=206

- v13

HP 11 520

Armour 320+6+2=326

Damage (3320+6)×120%=3991

- v12 vs v13

Armour 326/24=13,58

Damage 3991/206=19,34 (+42% vs armour)

So, in v13 thw damage increase +42% more than the armour.

I think it's normal more losses in v13.

it's gonna take a bit as people upgrade certain things. We always have a half a dozen battles going in our alliance with a few hundred thousand troops and ships and are doing a lot of watching. I'm thinking the defensive upgrades are the first before offensive like as for hops and swords. Speeds are killed as are morts in some sea battles but it all depends on the upgrades the enemy has. Being in a server war gives us lots of good info and the fighters are watching very carefully.

Quote from Salah Ad-Din

Thanks for the heads up..
I will also had a land battle and i have noticed that the balloons are useless honestly the cant kill a single mortal without any upgrade

Maybe the enemy did the defense upgrades first. That's what I'm doing. With that many balloons i would have waved the heck out of it if possible. 30 gyros,15 balloons and a spear. As long as you both have equal amounts of balloons and gyros you wont kill mortars.

One thing: Baloons are dying immediately without any damage whatsoever, to gyros. Both with Forge active.

One thing to rapidly invest, I believe, would be defense for baloons (ground)

Quote from Maeldun

One thing: Baloons are dying immediately without any damage whatsoever, to gyros. Both with Forge active.

One thing to rapidly invest, I believe, would be defense for baloons (ground)

Yes,that was the first recommendation some of our fighters said.That and hop and sword defence.

Quote from Salah Ad-Din

I've had a few fights so far, and here are my initial thoughts:

First of all, I faced a level 44 before the update. In round one, I was able to break through one wall and almost a second section, so in round two, only one box was open. Now, after the update, I can break through two and a half boxes-sections of the wall

However, the steam rams are dying way too easily! I lost about 70 steam rams in a single battle against fire ships and rams positioned on the front line, and the enemy didn’t even have rockets in their first line! That feels a bit off.

What are your thoughts so far? Have you noticed similar issues?

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post the CR if you can, how many rounds? we need something to compare it to, sounds like it might excessive though.

Quote from Maeldun

One thing: Baloons are dying immediately without any damage whatsoever, to gyros. Both with Forge active.

One thing to rapidly invest, I believe, would be defense for baloons (ground)

that's gonna change things quite a bit then.. on both sides, use to be it was still profitable to deploy bombers if the enemy had morters but sounds like that might not be the case now.

It also means defense is going to be more difficult because you can't do anything to their mortars, by the time you've chewed thru their bombers or gyro's and won air supremacy they will have gotten thru your wall and either withdrew and replaced with rams or have ran out of ammo and aren't on the field.

Quote from Salah Ad-Din

Before, the balloons used to kill a few mortals, but now they do nothing. And I think it's because they’re too weak. None of them survived, whereas normally 4–5 would make it through and take out some enemy mortals.

I don't normally deploy Mortars until all the Balloons have been killed. This is going to make me rethink that.

Have someone verify if the 5 ballons wave in naval crs continue to work or not?