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Hi buddy,

I’m one of those people who wants to clearly understand what is permissible and what isn’t.

I have an account that I care about, and I want to be sure I won’t get banned for something minor that’s written somewhere deep in the forum rather than on the main page of the rules.

Cheating shouldn’t mean simply having 10 shared IP accounts, for a total of 11 accounts.

That’s why we need clarity. For example:

– If someone attacks one of my multi accounts, am I allowed to attack back using another account, if the shared IP settings permit it?

– If someone is playing with piracy, can they support their friend using two of their accounts to boost points?

Do you know how many players have been banned just because they didn’t fully understand the rules?

I’ve worked as a quality evaluator and have been involved with policies, FAQs, and similar documentation. I’m currently part of a policy and planning team, and we also deal with written policies.

Any game or platform should have clearly visible rules. Everyone should know what is allowed and what isn’t, and it should be made clear by the policy makers, in this case, Gameforge.

I’m saying this based on experience. Players are actually welcoming clearer policies, knowing that it’ll mean fewer unfair bans.

Multi-accounting is a thing it can’t be completely stopped. We’re in the era of VPNs and AI... it’s 2025, time to move on, guys.

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I agree with you. This game has changed a lot so far. We're not in 2011 anymore. I've already created a thread asking if a high score account was allowed to send resources to a low score account (my mate). I think they should copy and paste the most frequent questions and replies regarding the rules, at least. That way, as players ask and GOs reply, people are getting more aware of the rules without having to surf through this huge forum.

If they ensure there is a FAQ page to all members, people won't be able to come up with excuses. As for the AI thing, I think it is a nice strategy too. Instead of creating a page full of rules no one will read, you can simply ask to the advisors about them and get straight-to-the-point answers.

They can create Badidol advisor hahahah It wouldn't be a bad idea!

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1. Multi Accounts

It is possible to maintain several accounts on the same server. These must be declared using the in-game function. Direct interaction between these multi accounts is not allowed, and circumventing the rules via other players is also prohibited.

What should be included is a clear limit for example, a maximum of 10 shared accounts.

It is also within a player's right to know the rules clearly. Turning a blind eye doesn't benefit anyone.

When you play a game, you need to know what is permissible and what is not.

At the moment, the Forum is a chaos, topics about Rules can be found all over the platform.

Thank God other games or forums don’t operate with the same values.

I can manage the Ikariam forum I’m pretty good at finding things myself.

It’s just a shame that others can’t, and apparently need to be certified researchers or have loads of spare time to do so.

3. Pushing

It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players. A player is considered weaker if their total high score is lower than that of the accused.

Regarding pushing, there should be clear scenarios related to piracy, for example, whether it is permissible to take pirate points from a weaker account.

Fun fact: back in 2022, in one community, accounts were banned under this rule because operators believed that taking pirate points from weaker accounts was pushing. (It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players.)

But what is actually pushing, based on other admins, is when I use my own account to farm pirate points from two shared accounts (Account A and Account B), and I repeat this process regularly.

Actually call me crazy, i have found this answer in the Czech forum by translating the page, and then i have double checked it through a ticket hahaha

Anyway, thanks for your responses.

I’m not part of the policy team. I’ve just shared my feedback as a loyal player since 2008.

Thanks again for getting back to me!

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How awesome it is to see this post.... That's part of what I discussed on the thread I created last year regarding alts. People do find loopholes whether there are explicit rules or not. However, I agree with you. It is important to have everything clear so players don't act on bad faith and call it "strategy" or "adapting to the game" like many say.

On the other hand, I also agree with Badidol. The terms are going to be longer and longer because they'll always find a loophole for their own benefit. Imagine the hard work they'll have to refresh the page everytime someone has the brilliant idea to "hack" the game? No wonder the law books are huge, and I believe the GOs don't want to have the headache to do the same.

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When the game allows you to have up to 11 accounts per server and you make the 11 accounts per server and abide by the game rules that's not acting in bad faith. That's playing the game with the current, legal rule set.

You might not like the rule set, but it's not against the rules, acting in bad faith, or unethical.

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1. Multi Accounts

It is possible to maintain several accounts on the same server. These must be declared using the in-game function. Direct interaction between these multi accounts is not allowed, and circumventing the rules via other players is also prohibited.

What should be included is a clear limit for example, a maximum of 10 shared accounts.

It is also within a player's right to know the rules clearly. Turning a blind eye doesn't benefit anyone.

When you play a game, you need to know what is permissible and what is not.

At the moment, the Forum is a chaos, topics about Rules can be found all over the platform.

Thank God other games or forums don’t operate with the same values.

I can manage the Ikariam forum I’m pretty good at finding things myself.

It’s just a shame that others can’t, and apparently need to be certified researchers or have loads of spare time to do so.

3. Pushing

It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players. A player is considered weaker if their total high score is lower than that of the accused.

Regarding pushing, there should be clear scenarios related to piracy, for example, whether it is permissible to take pirate points from a weaker account.

Fun fact: back in 2022, in one community, accounts were banned under this rule because operators believed that taking pirate points from weaker accounts was pushing. (It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players.)

But what is actually pushing, based on other admins, is when I use my own account to farm pirate points from two shared accounts (Account A and Account B), and I repeat this process regularly.

Actually call me crazy, i have found this answer in the Czech forum by translating the page, and then i have double checked it through a ticket hahaha

Anyway, thanks for your responses.

I’m not part of the policy team. I’ve just shared my feedback as a loyal player since 2008.

Thanks again for getting back to me!

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How awesome it is to see this post.... That's part of what I discussed on the thread I created last year regarding alts. People do find loopholes whether there are explicit rules or not. However, I agree with you. It is important to have everything clear so players don't act on bad faith and call it "strategy" or "adapting to the game" like many say.

On the other hand, I also agree with Badidol. The terms are going to be longer and longer because they'll always find a loophole for their own benefit. Imagine the hard work they'll have to refresh the page everytime someone has the brilliant idea to "hack" the game? No wonder the law books are huge, and I believe the GOs don't want to have the headache to do the same.

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When the game allows you to have up to 11 accounts per server and you make the 11 accounts per server and abide by the game rules that's not acting in bad faith. That's playing the game with the current, legal rule set.

You might not like the rule set, but it's not against the rules, acting in bad faith, or unethical.

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Your reading skills are so good I need to state that I never said that having 11 accounts is acting on bad faith. I said rules need to be clear to avoid people acting on bad faith regarding any aspect of the game. Is attacking someone with an alt against the rules? Yes? No? I don't know. That's what I'm talking about.

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Quote from Salah Ad-Din

1. Multi Accounts

It is possible to maintain several accounts on the same server. These must be declared using the in-game function. Direct interaction between these multi accounts is not allowed, and circumventing the rules via other players is also prohibited.

What should be included is a clear limit for example, a maximum of 10 shared accounts.

It is also within a player's right to know the rules clearly. Turning a blind eye doesn't benefit anyone.

When you play a game, you need to know what is permissible and what is not.

At the moment, the Forum is a chaos, topics about Rules can be found all over the platform.

Thank God other games or forums don’t operate with the same values.

I can manage the Ikariam forum I’m pretty good at finding things myself.

It’s just a shame that others can’t, and apparently need to be certified researchers or have loads of spare time to do so.

3. Pushing

It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players. A player is considered weaker if their total high score is lower than that of the accused.

Regarding pushing, there should be clear scenarios related to piracy, for example, whether it is permissible to take pirate points from a weaker account.

Fun fact: back in 2022, in one community, accounts were banned under this rule because operators believed that taking pirate points from weaker accounts was pushing. (It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players.)

But what is actually pushing, based on other admins, is when I use my own account to farm pirate points from two shared accounts (Account A and Account B), and I repeat this process regularly.

Actually call me crazy, i have found this answer in the Czech forum by translating the page, and then i have double checked it through a ticket hahaha

Anyway, thanks for your responses.

I’m not part of the policy team. I’ve just shared my feedback as a loyal player since 2008.

Thanks again for getting back to me!

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How awesome it is to see this post.... That's part of what I discussed on the thread I created last year regarding alts. People do find loopholes whether there are explicit rules or not. However, I agree with you. It is important to have everything clear so players don't act on bad faith and call it "strategy" or "adapting to the game" like many say.

On the other hand, I also agree with Badidol. The terms are going to be longer and longer because they'll always find a loophole for their own benefit. Imagine the hard work they'll have to refresh the page everytime someone has the brilliant idea to "hack" the game? No wonder the law books are huge, and I believe the GOs don't want to have the headache to do the same.

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When the game allows you to have up to 11 accounts per server and you make the 11 accounts per server and abide by the game rules that's not acting in bad faith. That's playing the game with the current, legal rule set.

You might not like the rule set, but it's not against the rules, acting in bad faith, or unethical.

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Your reading skills are so good I need to state that I never said that having 11 accounts is acting on bad faith. I said rules need to be clear to avoid people acting on bad faith regarding any aspect of the game. Is attacking someone with an alt against the rules? Yes? No? I don't know. That's what I'm talking about.

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Adapting to the game is specifically the phrase I used to describe making 11 accounts per server as it isn't against the rules.

Per a GO, it is, and I have the source somewhere, but it might not be universally the case. I'd argue it should be.

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Quote from Salah Ad-Din

1. Multi Accounts

It is possible to maintain several accounts on the same server. These must be declared using the in-game function. Direct interaction between these multi accounts is not allowed, and circumventing the rules via other players is also prohibited.

What should be included is a clear limit for example, a maximum of 10 shared accounts.

It is also within a player's right to know the rules clearly. Turning a blind eye doesn't benefit anyone.

When you play a game, you need to know what is permissible and what is not.

At the moment, the Forum is a chaos, topics about Rules can be found all over the platform.

Thank God other games or forums don’t operate with the same values.

I can manage the Ikariam forum I’m pretty good at finding things myself.

It’s just a shame that others can’t, and apparently need to be certified researchers or have loads of spare time to do so.

3. Pushing

It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players. A player is considered weaker if their total high score is lower than that of the accused.

Regarding pushing, there should be clear scenarios related to piracy, for example, whether it is permissible to take pirate points from a weaker account.

Fun fact: back in 2022, in one community, accounts were banned under this rule because operators believed that taking pirate points from weaker accounts was pushing. (It is not allowed to gain an advantage at the expense of weaker players.)

But what is actually pushing, based on other admins, is when I use my own account to farm pirate points from two shared accounts (Account A and Account B), and I repeat this process regularly.

Actually call me crazy, i have found this answer in the Czech forum by translating the page, and then i have double checked it through a ticket hahaha

Anyway, thanks for your responses.

I’m not part of the policy team. I’ve just shared my feedback as a loyal player since 2008.

Thanks again for getting back to me!

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How awesome it is to see this post.... That's part of what I discussed on the thread I created last year regarding alts. People do find loopholes whether there are explicit rules or not. However, I agree with you. It is important to have everything clear so players don't act on bad faith and call it "strategy" or "adapting to the game" like many say.

On the other hand, I also agree with Badidol. The terms are going to be longer and longer because they'll always find a loophole for their own benefit. Imagine the hard work they'll have to refresh the page everytime someone has the brilliant idea to "hack" the game? No wonder the law books are huge, and I believe the GOs don't want to have the headache to do the same.

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When the game allows you to have up to 11 accounts per server and you make the 11 accounts per server and abide by the game rules that's not acting in bad faith. That's playing the game with the current, legal rule set.

You might not like the rule set, but it's not against the rules, acting in bad faith, or unethical.

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Your reading skills are so good I need to state that I never said that having 11 accounts is acting on bad faith. I said rules need to be clear to avoid people acting on bad faith regarding any aspect of the game. Is attacking someone with an alt against the rules? Yes? No? I don't know. That's what I'm talking about.

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Adapting to the game is specifically the phrase I used to describe making 11 accounts per server as it isn't against the rules.

Per a GO, it is, and I have the source somewhere, but it might not be universally the case. I'd argue it should be.

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Why not? They have global rules.

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How awesome it is to see this post.... That's part of what I discussed on the thread I created last year regarding alts. People do find loopholes whether there are explicit rules or not. However, I agree with you. It is important to have everything clear so players don't act on bad faith and call it "strategy" or "adapting to the game" like many say.

On the other hand, I also agree with Badidol. The terms are going to be longer and longer because they'll always find a loophole for their own benefit. Imagine the hard work they'll have to refresh the page everytime someone has the brilliant idea to "hack" the game? No wonder the law books are huge, and I believe the GOs don't want to have the headache to do the same.

When the game allows you to have up to 11 accounts per server and you make the 11 accounts per server and abide by the game rules that's not acting in bad faith. That's playing the game with the current, legal rule set.

You might not like the rule set, but it's not against the rules, acting in bad faith, or unethical.

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Your reading skills are so good I need to state that I never said that having 11 accounts is acting on bad faith. I said rules need to be clear to avoid people acting on bad faith regarding any aspect of the game. Is attacking someone with an alt against the rules? Yes? No? I don't know. That's what I'm talking about.

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Adapting to the game is specifically the phrase I used to describe making 11 accounts per server as it isn't against the rules.

Per a GO, it is, and I have the source somewhere, but it might not be universally the case. I'd argue it should be.

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Why not? They have global rules.

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Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, the global rules do not specify it one way or another.