I think 60-80 X damage score would be really fair for resources and 20 X damage score for gold. Ikariam is not a game where millions of resources should be gathered overnight so something like 500-1000 X damage score would be too much, but 28 X damage score is also too low. If someone used expensive ships, he/she would still be in loss after 28 X damage score resources.
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Ikariam is not a game where millions of resources should be gathered
I won 1st rank in Piracy and got 16m resources as a reward.
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Ikariam is not a game where millions of resources should be gathered
I won 1st rank in Piracy and got 16m resources as a reward.
Hi,
yes in piracy with the storage at a great lvl
Thanks
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Appreciate that after long time there is something changes as i was playing since 2008 and i was surprised about the new figures of Haidra, recently am shocked about after i reaching rank k 6 in Bang 3 i haven't receive any rewards that broke my heart i have spent more than 80 thousand generals 😑
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If I'm not mistaken, the maximum resources from piracy is 660.000.000 total resources while the maximum resources for Hydra is 10,684,800 total resources using 6,360 ambrosia and 2,671,200 without ambrosia (Note that this does not factor the unit cost).
Piracy
5 warehouses x 480 protected resources x 50 level x 20 cities x 2.75 multiplier from top 1 = 33.000.000
And since this is for each resources type 33.000.000 x 5 = 660.000.000 total resources bonus.
And this is pure profit ; no upkeep/civilian/resources used.
Hydra
Note that this consider you basically use a bot to not miss any attack even by one second + get the prefect damage possible every attack + use ambrosia all the way.
53 hours (duration of the event) x 6 attacks per hour x 1200 damage = 381.600 total damage (=TTD)
You then get the following reward: (TTD x3 stone) + (TTD x2 wine) + (TTD x1.5 crystal) + (TTD x13 wood) + (TTD x8.5 sulfur) = (TTD x (3 + 2 + 1.5 + 13 + 8,5)) = 10,684,800 total resources. if you are always using ambrosia for a total of 53 hours (duration of the event x 6 attacks per hour x 20 ambroisia = 6,360 ambrosia
Now for unit recruitement cost: let's be generous and say you are only using phalanx to score the maximum 1200 damage point on every attaque.
You will have to send a total of 53 hours x 6 attacks x 200 phalanx = 63.600 phalanx.
With a lvl50 carpenter + lvl50 Firework test area, phalanx cost 20 wood and 15 sulfur.
We then get a total cost of: (20 wood x 63.600 phalanx) + (15 sulfur x 63.600 phalanx) = 1,272,015 resources.
That's half the total reward for a F2P player, and only by using phalanx while getting the maximum 1200 damage every run (which is really unrealistic).
Not only do we need waaaaaay better reward for the upcoming event, but it only seems fair to me to also rework the rewards for this first event.
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Display MoreIf I'm not mistaken, the maximum resources from piracy is 660.000.000 total resources while the maximum resources for Hydra is 10,684,800 total resources using 6,360 ambrosia and 2,671,200 without ambrosia (Note that this does not factor the unit cost).
Piracy
5 warehouses x 480 protected resources x 50 level x 20 cities x 2.75 multiplier from top 1 = 33.000.000
And since this is for each resources type 33.000.000 x 5 = 660.000.000 total resources bonus.
And this is pure profit ; no upkeep/civilian/resources used.
Hydra
Note that this consider you basically use a bot to not miss any attack even by one second + get the prefect damage possible every attack + use ambrosia all the way.
53 hours (duration of the event) x 6 attacks per hour x 1200 damage = 381.600 total damage (=TTD)
You then get the following reward: (TTD x3 stone) + (TTD x2 wine) + (TTD x1.5 crystal) + (TTD x13 wood) + (TTD x8.5 sulfur) = (TTD x (3 + 2 + 1.5 + 13 + 8,5)) = 10,684,800 total resources. if you are always using ambrosia for a total of 53 hours (duration of the event x 6 attacks per hour x 20 ambroisia = 6,360 ambrosia
Now for unit recruitement cost: let's be generous and say you are only using phalanx to score the maximum 1200 damage point on every attaque.
You will have to send a total of 53 hours x 6 attacks x 200 phalanx = 63.600 phalanx.
With a lvl50 carpenter + lvl50 Firework test area, phalanx cost 20 wood and 15 sulfur.
We then get a total cost of: (20 wood x 63.600 phalanx) + (15 sulfur x 63.600 phalanx) = 1,272,015 resources.
That's half the total reward for a F2P player, and only by using phalanx while getting the maximum 1200 damage every run (which is really unrealistic).
Not only do we need waaaaaay better reward for the upcoming event, but it only seems fair to me to also rework the rewards for this first event.
Since the rewards have not been distributed yet for all servers, we don't know the effect of the level of the hydra. The resources I got was 28 per point of damage but that's for level 6 hydra. I agree that it is way too low, but I think we also need to get more data from other servers that reached level 7 or level 8 hydra and compare the rewards there. If a higher level hydra means higher ratio of rewards, then this would be another logical stimuli for more players to participate in order to get higher rewards at a group level.
If I got 30.5 (resources + gold) for level 6 hydra that would be roughly 5.1 resources per level. So if a server manager to reach level 10 of hydra, it would be 51 (resources + gold) per point of damage, which is already significantly better. Curious to see if this is the case. If it is, then the event would be much better.
badidol are you allowed to share more information on the rewards system?
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are you allowed to share more information on the rewards system?
We're not in the habit of publishing formulas, so no, it's unlikely we'll publish this one.
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Since the rewards have not been distributed yet for all servers, we don't know the effect of the level of the hydra. The resources I got was 28 per point of damage but that's for level 6 hydra. I agree that it is way too low, but I think we also need to get more data from other servers that reached level 7 or level 8 hydra and compare the rewards there. If a higher level hydra means higher ratio of rewards, then this would be another logical stimuli for more players to participate in order to get higher rewards at a group level.
If I got 30.5 (resources + gold) for level 6 hydra that would be roughly 5.1 resources per level. So if a server manager to reach level 10 of hydra, it would be 51 (resources + gold) per point of damage, which is already significantly better. Curious to see if this is the case. If it is, then the event would be much better.
badidol are you allowed to share more information on the rewards system?
Let's hope you are right!
Although it's also good to consider that if there is one multiplier based on milestone, it will more or less always be the same ; since the hydra's hitpoints scales with the server activity.
Most active server I can access finished between 6 and 8 milestone. I've only seen one screenshot of a milestone 9 with very low HP.
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I've only seen one screenshot of a milestone 9 with very low HP.
I've seen it too and was curious how !
I guess it's adjusted based on how many total players in the server OR how many players who participate the event.
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I've not played on the test server in Ikariam but I know a lot of games that have test servers just hand out items, resources, etc at will because the object it to actually test stuff not just be another server.
if that's how it works in Ikariam there shouldn't be a need for a bonus event.
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badidol It's really a joke. Test server players also joined the ambush game. We spent resources there too and couldn't get a reward for the crash. Apology bonus (event) was given to all servers. None to the test server. Is this revenge for our argument yesterday?
I checked. EN800 has the event just like any other server.
Please empty cache and cookies and relog.
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I've not played on the test server in Ikariam but I know a lot of games that have test servers just hand out items, resources, etc at will because the object it to actually test stuff not just be another server.
if that's how it works in Ikariam there shouldn't be a need for a bonus event.
That is how it was intended.
However, players in Ikariam have never really understood that and used the test server like any other playing server.
And we have for a long time not updated the test server first, which might have contributed to many players thinking it was just any other normal playing server.
Be that as it may, you are absolutely right. A test server in general can always have things working or not working in a blink of an eye. Such is the nature of TEST servers.
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I would like to see that the rewards will increase by X% for each level of Hydra defeated. So for instance: if you and all players on server manage to defeat hydra level 6 everybody's rewards should increase by X% (and so on for different levels)
This would incentive more people to compete in the event and even if you miss out on top 3 places you are still motivated to push on perhaps destroy that 1 extra level of hydra. This would bring some multiplayer cooperation spirit into this event, since more people compete, better then do, more points they get - higher rewards for everybody.
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badidol It's really a joke. Test server players also joined the ambush game. We spent resources there too and couldn't get a reward for the crash. Apology bonus (event) was given to all servers. None to the test server. Is this revenge for our argument yesterday?
I checked. EN800 has the event just like any other server.
Please empty cache and cookies and relog.
Sory
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badidol It's really a joke. Test server players also joined the ambush game. We spent resources there too and couldn't get a reward for the crash. Apology bonus (event) was given to all servers. None to the test server. Is this revenge for our argument yesterday?
I checked. EN800 has the event just like any other server.
Please empty cache and cookies and relog.
Sory
Did you get your reward on en800? I did 11 damage and didn't get anything. I've relogged and nothing. I know it's a pittance, but I'm curious if there's something else I need to do.
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I've not played on the test server in Ikariam but I know a lot of games that have test servers just hand out items, resources, etc at will because the object it to actually test stuff not just be another server.
if that's how it works in Ikariam there shouldn't be a need for a bonus event.
That is how it was intended.
However, players in Ikariam have never really understood that and used the test server like any other playing server.
And we have for a long time not updated the test server first, which might have contributed to many players thinking it was just any other normal playing server.
Be that as it may, you are absolutely right. A test server in general can always have things working or not working in a blink of an eye. Such is the nature of TEST servers.
The users will play on the test server based on how you treat the test server. If the test server is treated as just another server, the users will treat it as one.
The most interesting thing about the test server is there's no GY and you can't buy ambro, so there's that for people that dislike those features.
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The most interesting thing about the test server is there's no GY and you can't buy ambro, so there's that for people that dislike those features.
I've been playing since 2009. and never played seriously on test server. Now when I read that there is no ambro and all players are equal, i feel bad for not doing it.
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Btw what does GY stand for?
Graveyard - a server where the inactive accounts are moved after a certain time.
