Server Merge Additional Questions

    Quote from Rastan

    I am curious if it was ever turned off

    By default, the discord server security settings are not on the highest level, which this is. So yes, it was turned off at the beginning.


    Quote from Rastan

    I suspect it was always on and spam was never a real problem and it was just preemptively turned on from the start.

    Wrong. It was turned on after an influx of spam and troll accounts to make it harder for such accounts to enter the server and cause unrest.

    In the beginning it wasn't turned on, which is why several people currently being members of our Discord server actually have no verified phone number with Discord, because the setting doesn't work retroactively.


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    Have you guys finalized the changes to the servers for the merger or is it still in flux?

    They're final and will be posted at some point during the day today.

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    Am Anfang wurde das Universum erschaffen.

    Das machte viele Leute sehr wütend und wurde allenthalben als Schritt in die falsche Richtung angesehen.

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    Quote from Rastan

    I suspect it was always on and spam was never a real problem and it was just preemptively turned on from the start.

    Wrong. It was turned on after an influx of spam and troll accounts to make it harder for such accounts to enter the server and cause unrest.

    In the beginning it wasn't turned on, which is why several people currently being members of our Discord server actually have no verified phone number with Discord, because the setting doesn't work retroactively.

    Alright I take it back then, Surprised to hear this because Im on other better known games on discord w/o it and haven't seen spam be an issue.
    The occasional spammer of course though.

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    Quote from Rastan

    Have you guys finalized the changes to the servers for the merger or is it still in flux?

    They're final and will be posted at some point during the day today.

    Cool, Thanks.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    Quote from Rastan

    Alright I take it back then, Surprised to hear this because Im on other better known games on discord w/o it and haven't seen spam be an issue.
    The occasional spammer of course though.

    You can be lucky and you can be unlucky.

    We were unlucky, it seems. When we turned it on, it was after a huge wave of spam accounts spamming anything ranging from porn (and not the "good" kind) up to bitcoin spam and other nonsense. That needed to be addressed and unfortunately only the drastic measure of requiring members to have a verified phone on their Discord account stopped it. We could of course turn that off and on whenever such a wave is incoming or not but quite frankly...I don't see the point.

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    Am Anfang wurde das Universum erschaffen.

    Das machte viele Leute sehr wütend und wurde allenthalben als Schritt in die falsche Richtung angesehen.

    New settings are now final: Merges Ikariam 2024

    TBH, personally I kinda like them!!!

    I am on the 2-server side and they are clear: option 1 is for builders and option 2 is for fighters.

    The 4-server settings has two more:

    - "good old days" (they are called like that, but I don't know who would ever want to reset a world but with the same settins, basically start over but with no benefits)

    - researchers

    Wow.. I wish they'd have stuck with the original options for the 2 server comunity


    Server 1 looked good more wood/marble, faster ships, faster build time.


    now it looks like we've traded an additional 10% boost in wood and marble for a serious nerf to military..


    I feel like I've got 2 choices here builder or fighter with no good in between.


    What ever it is what it is.. ambrosia users will love the fighter server for that gigantic wood/sulfur bonus and just convert with premtium trader


    see what we get when GF starts thinking about our feed back.. good lord alright let's get this over with.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    Quote from Rastan

    now it looks like we've traded an additional 10% boost in wood and marble for a serious nerf to military..

    Why do you care? If you're a builder, you want more wood and marble, right? Why the need for an army? Of course, also on builders server can be wars and fights, but remember that EVERYONE is affected by that nerf, not only you. If you are a peaceful builder and do not want wars, but still get attacked, when building army for defense is not only you who have to pay much for the army, but also the attacker!

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    Quote from Rastan

    now it looks like we've traded an additional 10% boost in wood and marble for a serious nerf to military..

    Why do you care? If you're a builder, you want more wood and marble, right? Why the need for an army? Of course, also on builders server can be wars and fights, but remember that EVERYONE is affected by that nerf, not only you. If you are a peaceful builder and do not want wars, but still get attacked, when building army for defense is not only you who have to pay much for the army, but also the attacker!

    Im some where in between im not just a builder im not just a fighter im a builder AND a fighter in war,

    It's already expensive enough going after an active target that a resisting player is rarely profitable.


    I feel like giving only 2 options now I have a clear path of either being a builder OR a fighter.. Mayberry vs Thunderdome.


    If im going to have that big of a military nerf I feel the 10% wood/marble is a poor exchange compared to the original offering.

    Where as the "fighter" server is getting a buffet of bonuses.. and 50% wood/sulfur production.. W T F


    I was happy with the original offerings I wasn't the one moaning about it... but it does not matter it's final and I do believe badidol when he says it's final.


    so it is what is is.


    P.S I don't know where I'll go.. depends on the alliance vote.. I may very well vote for server 2 not because im a fighter but because im sturdy enough that while I dare not say im the best fighter even on my own server, I fear no one and will give anyone testing me mroe trouble than im worth.


    The bonuses to wood and sulfur of that magnitude and with the reduced cost of military means I could make up the difference with more marble and less sulfur towns probably negating that marble bonus.


    So ya it's a tough choice and probably not as clear as GF might think it is.. ambrosia users might very well go to 2 anyway because theyc an just convert with preimum trader.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    It looks like I'll be merging to servers 2 and 3. Server 4 actually looks interesting for an ambrosia builder.


    lagu  badidol Would it be possible for everyone to have a time-limited server move voucher? So that if we don't like where we land - everything we want already taken - first time around we can try our luck on another server.

    Quote from Quartz

    It looks like I'll be merging to servers 2 and 3. Server 4 actually looks interesting for an ambrosia builder.


    lagu  badidol Would it be possible for everyone to have a time-limited server move voucher? So that if we don't like where we land - everything we want already taken - first time around we can try our luck on another server.

    You could just grave yard and then transfer.. that takes like a month to idle out and you'll probably wake up robbed of goods though.

    you'll also be late getting to the other server and have to choose from what's left over.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    To me it looks the server 2 in the 2 servers configuration is better even for buildings if you are willing to pay the ambrosia for premium trader. The option 1 would have been fine if they would have only 1 nerf out of these 2, maybe even 0 military nerfs considering the server 2 has higher resources The military seems a bit too overkilled on server 1. Otherwise the resources bonuses are good on both servers, better than on the first try.

    • Troops and ships are built 50% slower than normal.
    • Troops cost twice as much as than normal.
    Quote from Rastan
    Quote from Quartz

    It looks like I'll be merging to servers 2 and 3. Server 4 actually looks interesting for an ambrosia builder.


    lagu  badidol Would it be possible for everyone to have a time-limited server move voucher? So that if we don't like where we land - everything we want already taken - first time around we can try our luck on another server.

    You could just grave yard and then transfer.. that takes like a month to idle out and you'll probably wake up robbed of goods though.

    you'll also be late getting to the other server and have to choose from what's left over.

    But you would get your donations back again. For some that's way more than they'd produce in those weeks.


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    Boros

    badidol can you clarify server 1 on the 2 sever comunity

    "Troops cost twice as much as than normal."


    is this upkeep or build cost?

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    here? or on discord? I didn't see it.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

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    Quote from Quartz

    It looks like I'll be merging to servers 2 and 3. Server 4 actually looks interesting for an ambrosia builder.


    lagu  badidol Would it be possible for everyone to have a time-limited server move voucher? So that if we don't like where we land - everything we want already taken - first time around we can try our luck on another server.

    You could just grave yard and then transfer.. that takes like a month to idle out and you'll probably wake up robbed of goods though.

    you'll also be late getting to the other server and have to choose from what's left over.


    Well yes. Hence the need for the voucher.

    You'd still be stuck picking from scraps left over after everyone picked their ideal spots though.. but you can ask for it all the same.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    Correct. That's the building cost

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    Am Anfang wurde das Universum erschaffen.

    Das machte viele Leute sehr wütend und wurde allenthalben als Schritt in die falsche Richtung angesehen.

    Quote from Rastan
    Quote from Quartz

    It looks like I'll be merging to servers 2 and 3. Server 4 actually looks interesting for an ambrosia builder.


    lagu  badidol Would it be possible for everyone to have a time-limited server move voucher? So that if we don't like where we land - everything we want already taken - first time around we can try our luck on another server.

    You could just grave yard and then transfer.. that takes like a month to idle out and you'll probably wake up robbed of goods though.

    you'll also be late getting to the other server and have to choose from what's left over.

    Not always. You can't end in top 50 if I recall correctly.

    what are the odds of that after merger?

    Oh interesting point though.. I assume that will be suspended for merger otherwise no one could be in the first 50 to transfer in.

    Diplomat for Raging Kings [RK] - Eurydike (US)

    Quote from Rastan

    what are the odds of that after merger?

    Oh interesting point though.. I assume that will be suspended for merger otherwise no one could be in the first 50 to transfer in.

    Depends a lot, but you can definitely have an account large enough that you know you have no options for rerolls.


    Softmerge itself won't take the top50 limit into account, obviously.

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